[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]kakno wrote:
Didn’t Poliquin say something about pole vaulters being the best?
Great strength and coordination
Great speed
Balls
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I’ve heard this several times.[/quote]
I know a state champ pole vaulter who is completely un-athletic at everything else she does. So i refuse to believe this.
[quote]spk wrote:
should be about 50000000 pages on this subject thats been asked for years… specific training for ones sport.
i bet tiger woods would poop out in a 30k x - country ski race… a race for very very fit athletes… lets say he gives up golf and specifically trains for this ski race. how will he do??? we’ll never know cause all he does is golf…
now , we know Pudzianowski is a bad ass strongman, but the dude was gassed big time in 6 minutes fighting tim silvia? 6 minutes… wonder what a marathoner thinks of a guy pooping out in 6 minutes… let the debates go on…[/quote]
Throw a marathoner in the cage and see if he can keep up the pace for 3 minutes.
[quote]spk wrote:
should be about 50000000 pages on this subject thats been asked for years… specific training for ones sport.
i bet tiger woods would poop out in a 30k x - country ski race… a race for very very fit athletes… lets say he gives up golf and specifically trains for this ski race. how will he do??? we’ll never know cause all he does is golf…
now , we know Pudzianowski is a bad ass strongman, but the dude was gassed big time in 6 minutes fighting tim silvia? 6 minutes… wonder what a marathoner thinks of a guy pooping out in 6 minutes… let the debates go on…[/quote]
Nick Diaz is a triathlete.
again…combat athletes are the ultimate athletes
[quote]Crow wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
How basketball and football didn’t make your list is beyond me, especially basketball. I’d throw soccer in there too and I barely consider it a sport lol. Anyway, I think your list is very wanting. Fitness competitions??!!! Huh?[/quote]
This. Basketball players are the best combination of speed, power, endurance, hand/eye coordination, dexterity, agility, leaping ability, footwork, finesse, etc… No other sport combines everything the way basketball does.[/quote]
I cannot agree with you more. Pro basketball players bring more “athletic” traits to the table than any other sport competitor. Especially when you consider the average height of the player. But what I find most funny is that retired NBA players seem to blow up more than any other pro athlete when their careers are over.
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Like pmpm said, they’re generally fairly thin dudes who can pack in food [most of it garbage] and stay lean due to the ungodly amount of calories they burn. Once their careers are over they continue to eat the same, and they usually end up drinking like fish on top of it. That’s a recipe for the fats. I remember reading an article on LeBron James either before or during his rookie year where the writer was with him at a diner and he drank 3 or 4 root beer floats with his dinner. When his career’s up he’s gonna have a pretty solid fupa.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]Crow wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
How basketball and football didn’t make your list is beyond me, especially basketball. I’d throw soccer in there too and I barely consider it a sport lol. Anyway, I think your list is very wanting. Fitness competitions??!!! Huh?[/quote]
This. Basketball players are the best combination of speed, power, endurance, hand/eye coordination, dexterity, agility, leaping ability, footwork, finesse, etc… No other sport combines everything the way basketball does.[/quote]
I cannot agree with you more. Pro basketball players bring more “athletic” traits to the table than any other sport competitor. Especially when you consider the average height of the player. But what I find most funny is that retired NBA players seem to blow up more than any other pro athlete when their careers are over.
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Like pmpm said, they’re generally fairly thin dudes who can pack in food [most of it garbage] and stay lean due to the ungodly amount of calories they burn. Once their careers are over they continue to eat the same, and they usually end up drinking like fish on top of it. That’s a recipe for the fats. I remember reading an article on LeBron James either before or during his rookie year where the writer was with him at a diner and he drank 3 or 4 root beer floats with his dinner. When his career’s up he’s gonna have a pretty solid fupa.[/quote]
I agree with most of this, to me though, I think of pro basketball players as the freakiest athletes on the planet bar none. I haven’t really thought all that much about their fitness. I definitely agree that the talent levels they possess are very broad and impressive.
[quote]jahall wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]kakno wrote:
Didn’t Poliquin say something about pole vaulters being the best?
Great strength and coordination
Great speed
Balls
[/quote]
I’ve heard this several times.[/quote]
I know a state champ pole vaulter who is completely un-athletic at everything else she does. So i refuse to believe this.[/quote]
Similar statements could be made about athletes in any sport.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]Justscrap wrote:
Wrote a blog post on the sports of the top 10 sports fittest athletes. My definition for fitness in this case a was a well rounded blend of speed, power, strength, muscular endurance, power endurance, and stamina. Here is the list in no particular order
Gymnast
Sport Acrobats
Strongman
Olympic Lifters
American Football (select positions)
Rugby
Australian Rules Football
Combat Sports/Martial Arts
Track and Field (power events)
Fitness Competitions
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Um the fittest athlete = athlete most fit to do their sport. So, the best athlete in each sport is the fittest athlete. If I’m a shot putter and I throw 80 feet but it takes me 15 minutes to recover for the next throw, I’m still the fittest athlete in shot put.[/quote]
No, that’s just a measure of the athlete most fit to perform his particular sport. The question is who is the most overall fit athlete. What athlete has the best combination of the attributes listed by the OP?[/quote]
Then everything else is abritrary, that is like comparing apples to oranges and you’ll just waste time just like every other person that decides to go down this path.
Agreed, this is why you can’t use the TOP or Bottom person in there field as an example. If Power-Speed-Agility is what is being used as a RULE for this thread of Fittest Athletes then for this thread alone I will put in.
Basketball players (Street-school-Pro)
Sprinters/Gymnast/Boxers
Wrestlers
Power-Speed-Agility
I’d think if you’re talking about general fitness a good measure would be testing athletes outside their sport of specialty.
If you take out the aspect of skill, being “fit” in which of those sports would translate into performing well in the most other sports?
[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]kakno wrote:
Didn’t Poliquin say something about pole vaulters being the best?
Great strength and coordination
Great speed
Balls
[/quote]
I’ve heard this several times.[/quote]
/thread[/quote]
I was a Pole Vaulter. Wink
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
How basketball and football didn’t make your list is beyond me, especially basketball. I’d throw soccer in there too and I barely consider it a sport lol. Anyway, I think your list is very wanting. Fitness competitions??!!! Huh?[/quote]
This. Basketball players are the best combination of speed, power, endurance, hand/eye coordination, dexterity, agility, leaping ability, footwork, finesse, etc… No other sport combines everything the way basketball does.[/quote]
What about hockey players? They don’t leap, but they do everything else while on skates.
FTR, I am not saying that I think hockey players are the “fittest”, but based on your criteria, I would say they need to be considered.
[quote]jahall wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]kakno wrote:
Didn’t Poliquin say something about pole vaulters being the best?
Great strength and coordination
Great speed
Balls
[/quote]
I’ve heard this several times.[/quote]
I know a state champ pole vaulter who is completely un-athletic at everything else she does. So i refuse to believe this.[/quote]
What state? Backwoods Alabama?
Try a state where PV is on the map. Any high school state champ from California, Washington, Oregon, select heartland states and several eastern states is a flippin stud. Allison Stokke pictured above is a total stud and she got destroyed by another Cali girl in the state meet.
My guess is the girl you know is still a way better athlete than you have any idea.
There’s a baseball scout who wanted to dig for unknown talent. He got a vaulter named Tommy Skipper who never played baseball in his life and some Decathlete to do a try out. The Decathlete had no aptitude. Tommy Skipper wiffed at all the first pitches thrown to him, 20 minutes later he was banging balls off the outfield wall. He was humming 90mph throws in from the outfield, and of course, he’s blazing fast. He was offered a contract worth hundreds of thousands.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
How basketball and football didn’t make your list is beyond me, especially basketball. I’d throw soccer in there too and I barely consider it a sport lol. Anyway, I think your list is very wanting. Fitness competitions??!!! Huh?[/quote]
This. Basketball players are the best combination of speed, power, endurance, hand/eye coordination, dexterity, agility, leaping ability, footwork, finesse, etc… No other sport combines everything the way basketball does.[/quote]
I agree basketball players are the fittest.
[quote]on edge wrote:
[quote]jahall wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]kakno wrote:
Didn’t Poliquin say something about pole vaulters being the best?
Great strength and coordination
Great speed
Balls
[/quote]
I’ve heard this several times.[/quote]
I know a state champ pole vaulter who is completely un-athletic at everything else she does. So i refuse to believe this.[/quote]
What state? Backwoods Alabama?
Try a state where PV is on the map. Any high school state champ from California, Washington, Oregon, select heartland states and several eastern states is a flippin stud. Allison Stokke pictured above is a total stud and she got destroyed by another Cali girl in the state meet.
My guess is the girl you know is still a way better athlete than you have any idea.
There’s a baseball scout who wanted to dig for unknown talent. He got a vaulter named Tommy Skipper who never played baseball in his life and some Decathlete to do a try out. The Decathlete had no aptitude. Tommy Skipper wiffed at all the first pitches thrown to him, 20 minutes later he was banging balls off the outfield wall. He was humming 90mph throws in from the outfield, and of course, he’s blazing fast. He was offered a contract worth hundreds of thousands.[/quote]
I call bullshit on that scout story. No way a scout is going to give some kid who’s never played baseball a contract worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, especially if he wasn’t even drafted. He probably got a check for $1000 and a bus ticket to Visalia. That’s all I got offered and I actually got drafted.
I bet that pole vaulter bombed out of baseball the same year he started playing it once he got exposed to some actual competition. I’m not saying pole vaulters aren’t great athletes, but I call bullshit on this particular story.
[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
How basketball and football didn’t make your list is beyond me, especially basketball. I’d throw soccer in there too and I barely consider it a sport lol. Anyway, I think your list is very wanting. Fitness competitions??!!! Huh?[/quote]
This. Basketball players are the best combination of speed, power, endurance, hand/eye coordination, dexterity, agility, leaping ability, footwork, finesse, etc… No other sport combines everything the way basketball does.[/quote]
What about hockey players? They don’t leap, but they do everything else while on skates.
FTR, I am not saying that I think hockey players are the “fittest”, but based on your criteria, I would say they need to be considered.
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Honestly I know next to nothing about hockey, but from what I’ve seen they can’t even come close to basketball players in terms of athleticism, footwork, agility, endurance, etc… Not to mention that if you took their skates away their speed gets halved.
No mention of Crossfit yet? Shocking!
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Honestly I know next to nothing about hockey.[/quote]
Clearly you don’t by what you proceeded to say afterwords. Off-ice they train in the same way athletes of many other sports do. If you take away their skates, yes, their speed slows significantly but it takes much more power to skate than it does to run.
[quote]PaddyM wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Honestly I know next to nothing about hockey.[/quote]
Clearly you don’t by what you proceeded to say afterwords. Off-ice they train in the same way athletes of many other sports do. If you take away their skates, yes, their speed slows significantly but it takes much more power to skate than it does to run.[/quote]
??? How does it take more power to skate than to run?
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
How basketball and football didn’t make your list is beyond me, especially basketball. I’d throw soccer in there too and I barely consider it a sport lol. Anyway, I think your list is very wanting. Fitness competitions??!!! Huh?[/quote]
This. Basketball players are the best combination of speed, power, endurance, hand/eye coordination, dexterity, agility, leaping ability, footwork, finesse, etc… No other sport combines everything the way basketball does.[/quote]
What about hockey players? They don’t leap, but they do everything else while on skates.
FTR, I am not saying that I think hockey players are the “fittest”, but based on your criteria, I would say they need to be considered.
[/quote]
Honestly I know next to nothing about hockey, but from what I’ve seen they can’t even come close to basketball players in terms of athleticism, footwork, agility, endurance, etc… Not to mention that if you took their skates away their speed gets halved.[/quote]
You probably shouldn’t comment on things you know little about.
Hockey players are generally considered among the most fit and versatile athletes around. And for the record, basketball is my favourite sport.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]PaddyM wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Honestly I know next to nothing about hockey.[/quote]
Clearly you don’t by what you proceeded to say afterwords. Off-ice they train in the same way athletes of many other sports do. If you take away their skates, yes, their speed slows significantly but it takes much more power to skate than it does to run.[/quote]
??? How does it take more power to skate than to run?[/quote]
My take is that it does. You can skate a lot fast than you can run, but it also consumes more energy.
to whiteflash:
No where in the definition of athletic does it mention that the athleticism take place on regular terrain. The fact that NHL players display their athleticism on ice doesn’t detract from the athleticism.
This is akin to saying Phelps isn’t a good athlete because he’d suck at marathons. Why is running speed more “athletic” than skating speed?
Oh, and BTW swimmers are good athletes too.