I’m training to get stronger and more athletic for basketball.
And how can I contact and ask Joe DeFranco about this?
[quote]Baller1950 wrote:
I’m training to get stronger and more athletic for basketball.
And how can I contact and ask Joe DeFranco about this?[/quote]
im 15 as well i have been doing my high school routine of 6 sets set1:8 reps//2:5 reps//3:5 reps//4:3 reps//5:3 reps//6: till failure
i have been doing this since i started weight lifting and that was a year ago and i had no problem with it.
My form was good since the beginnig so i went stright in to heavy squat same with the dead lifts. So have good form before you go heavy because a kid on the football team was kicked off because an injury due to poor form.
Have you grown throughout the last year?
I’ve grown about 2-3 inches (i forget the exact figure) and I deadlift heavy, not really too much actual back squatting because of where I work out. Front squats? Yes, I do heavy front squats (for me anyways)
Most of lifts are in the 5-8 range (big moves anyways)with 2-8 sets depending on what I’m trying to do
Power to the people style training is really good if you’re just a newbie
[quote]DPH wrote:
the problem with doing 18-20 rep sets is that when you start to fatigue your form goes to shit even with a light weight (good way for a newbie to get injured)…
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This guy’s right. The only time i ever got an injury deadlifting was when i did ONE set of 20 reps. During the end the weight starts coming up lopsided as certain muscles on different sides of the body give out. It ended up yanking my right trap down and straning my neck because it was jerking so badly.
hi,
I can not give the exact referance right now, bacause I do not remember the authors, however, I remeber that my studies (sports science and physical education, 2 years specialism in Olympic lifting and bodybuilding Coaching) I was reading the studies that confirmed that weight training actually stimulated growth of long bones. that in turn is what gives you hight!
the fact is, that you should get a good coach to write a routine FOR YOU! Do not copy any routines what were NOT done for you!
I would not go beyond 3 short 45 min sessions/week + play plenty of other sports + learn how to swim well, jump, play balls…
I would not necessarily do reps in 20s. Ok, once in a blue moon is not going to do any harm.
A bit of common sense!
- sit on your bum a bit and still do your homework!
Good Luck,
[quote]Baller1950 wrote:
I know alot of people say that weightlifting stunting your growth is bullshit.
But I’m 15.5 years old. I asked Chad Waterbury about squatting and deadlifting at this age.
He told me that I’m too young to squat and deadlift heavy at this age and I should do 18-20 rep sets.
I respect Chad Waterbury. He is a good trainer. But is he right on this one? [/quote]
i think you should stay at reps of 10 until form is perfected then go heavy. weights do not stunt growth. 18 to 20 reps is far to high.
I don’t know why everybody is saying ‘Chad is wrong’ when we don’t even know that he said what the thread starter claimed.
[quote]Rob1985 wrote:
I don’t know why everybody is saying ‘Chad is wrong’ when we don’t even know that he said what the thread starter claimed.[/quote]
that could very well be…
things are often mis-interpreted…
this kid’s interpretation of what Chad said is not a very good suggestion IMO…
[quote]Baller1950 wrote:
I know alot of people say that weightlifting stunting your growth is bullshit.
But I’m 15.5 years old. I asked Chad Waterbury about squatting and deadlifting at this age.
He told me that I’m too young to squat and deadlift heavy at this age and I should do 18-20 rep sets.
I respect Chad Waterbury. He is a good trainer. But is he right on this one? [/quote]
yes he is right. why did you ask a top coach if you don’t plan on following his advice? you’ll be lifting heavy soon enough.
i just finished 4 successful years of HS basketball and was recruited to play in college…and if basketball is what youre training for…lose the deadlifts, youre gonna fuck up your back…work out with squats at a weight you can perform 3-4 sets of 8-10 reps without feeling like you over exerted yourself…then do step-ups, jump rope, run, calf raises…that will cover your legs…
for upper body concentrate on building strong shoulders and a solid core, but dont neglect your arms and chest…building your shoulders and abs- will actually help your vertical leap…and driving to the rim through a bunch of big bodies will be much easier…trust me
going in to the competitive season (not counting aau, just HS), plan to have gained enough weight- so when you lose the expected minimum of 10 lbs in season- you are not to weak to compete…
[quote]bigmike88 wrote:
…lose the deadlifts, youre gonna fuck up your back…[/quote]
HERESY! leave this site forever!
your almost 16. How long have you been working out for?
I think it would be a great idea if you lift as heavy as you possibly can because the gains you will get later in life from lifting heavy now will be irreplacable. If you cant tell I am joking. There is something called a risk-benefit ratio. Just because some 12 year olds on T-Nation are repping 430lb deadlifts for sets of 3 doesnt mean you should.
[quote]bigmike88 wrote:
…lose the deadlifts, youre gonna fuck up your back…[/quote]
Holy Hell…
So when will his palms start growing hair?
[quote]4est wrote:
bigmike88 wrote:
…lose the deadlifts, youre gonna fuck up your back…
Holy Hell…
So when will his palms start growing hair?
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i say that because a basketball player does not need to do deadlifts…and only because hes a basketball player…
I dont think the pros would agree to that, but physiologically speaking your spine and general frame arent completely grown until about 17 years of age, your testosterone should be very high about at 15 years of age and through your twenties so put some meat on them bones, sleep alot, eat eat eat and when you hit 17 you can SQUAT/DEADLIFT BIG! This should get you some girls too and that where the lessons begin…
Well I havent squatted anything over 85% of my max yet. The heaviest thing I have squatted was 155 pounds and I did that for 7 reps.
So I should be fine right?
if you can bang out those 7 reps in 4 diff sets…yea