Toe Pain and Swelling

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Hey guys, this is a problem I have been having on my middle toe for about 1.5 years now. when I’m not using a steroid cream the toe gets red, then swells up days/weeks, and starts to turn deep red and purplish. Followed by pain to the touch.

Saw a few dr’s and they prescribed antifungal creams, steroid creams, and I even got anti-biotics(one thought it could just be an infection). None of these things helped. The only thing that supresses the swelling and pain is steroid creams(IMO not a long term solution…just a band-aid).

I’m seriously doubting it could be fungal or bacteria since it seems to flare up when I train and feel light pain when I run.

I’ve had X-rays(it’s not broken), Podiatrist says the tendon felt fine. And I just had a blood test for Raynaud’s disease(which came up negative).

Only reason I’m posting this here is because it only seems to flair up when I’m training really or on my feet all day. Anyone have any ideas?

PS It’s been said before, but we really need an Injury forum, I’m sure a lot of people in the bodybuilding forum are tired of injury threads.

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Have they ruled out Gout by any chance? Every case I’ve seen has most of the symptoms you described. My dad actually has it and it’s his big toe. From what he describes, it’s pretty intense pain.

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[quote]Paste42 wrote:
Have they ruled out Gout by any chance? Every case I’ve seen has most of the symptoms you described. My dad actually has it and it’s his big toe. From what he describes, it’s pretty intense pain.[/quote]

X 2 did they do blood tests, do you have the results? Uric acid levels. Could also be pseudo gout.

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That’s what I’m wonderin right now about Gout. They did blood tests, however I’m trying to get in touch with my DR and find out what blood tests they did. I think they did 4 tests.

Is there anything I can do for Gout in the meantime? Cut down on protein, etc? Is it possible to get rid of those gout crystals by changes in diet?

The fact that I have slight discomfort during movement and working out almost rules out bacteria/fungal IMO.

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[quote]tw0scoops2 wrote:
That’s what I’m wonderin right now about Gout. They did blood tests, however I’m trying to get in touch with my DR and find out what blood tests they did. I think they did 4 tests.

Is there anything I can do for Gout in the meantime? Cut down on protein, etc? Is it possible to get rid of those gout crystals by changes in diet?

The fact that I have slight discomfort during movement and working out almost rules out bacteria/fungal IMO. [/quote]

Uric acid is a product break down of certain types of proteins. normally process type meats (lunch meat and canned meat) and alcohol make gout worse. However if you are having this post movement could be pseudo gout. I would see an orthopaedic Dr. if your Uric acid levels are normal. What type of shoes do you wear?

Normal treatment for gout is NSAIDS (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory) meds like advil/aleve. there is daily medication that can be prescribed to lower uric acid levels. However seems like if you have seen a doc for this they should have already tested and treated for this.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]tw0scoops2 wrote:
That’s what I’m wonderin right now about Gout. They did blood tests, however I’m trying to get in touch with my DR and find out what blood tests they did. I think they did 4 tests.

Is there anything I can do for Gout in the meantime? Cut down on protein, etc? Is it possible to get rid of those gout crystals by changes in diet?

The fact that I have slight discomfort during movement and working out almost rules out bacteria/fungal IMO. [/quote]

Uric acid is a product break down of certain types of proteins. normally process type meats (lunch meat and canned meat) and alcohol make gout worse. However if you are having this post movement could be pseudo gout. I would see an orthopaedic Dr. if your Uric acid levels are normal. What type of shoes do you wear? Normal treatment for gout is NSAIDS (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory) meds like advil/aleve. there is daily medication that can be prescribed to lower uric acid levels. However seems like if you have seen a doc for this they should have already tested and treated for this.[/quote]

My trust in Dr’s has steadily gone downhill the past few years. Especially when you see a Podiatrist, he says it’s definately fungal…then you go to a dermatologist, and she says it’s definately not fungal…somethings a miss here…

I def don’t eat processed meats. The only canned meat I eat is tuna. Don’t drink too much alcohol(wine on the weekend, beer if I meet up with friends on the weekend).

I wear running shoes when I train(I know, not the best for lifting). Rockports for work, and Columbia trail shoes for daily crap.

the Dr did say if it was a shoe problem, I’d be seeing these issues on both feet. So far it’s only been the left foot.

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[quote]tw0scoops2 wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]tw0scoops2 wrote:
That’s what I’m wonderin right now about Gout. They did blood tests, however I’m trying to get in touch with my DR and find out what blood tests they did. I think they did 4 tests.

Is there anything I can do for Gout in the meantime? Cut down on protein, etc? Is it possible to get rid of those gout crystals by changes in diet?

The fact that I have slight discomfort during movement and working out almost rules out bacteria/fungal IMO. [/quote]

Uric acid is a product break down of certain types of proteins. normally process type meats (lunch meat and canned meat) and alcohol make gout worse. However if you are having this post movement could be pseudo gout. I would see an orthopaedic Dr. if your Uric acid levels are normal. What type of shoes do you wear? Normal treatment for gout is NSAIDS (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory) meds like advil/aleve. there is daily medication that can be prescribed to lower uric acid levels. However seems like if you have seen a doc for this they should have already tested and treated for this.[/quote]

My trust in Dr’s has steadily gone downhill the past few years. Especially when you see a Podiatrist, he says it’s definately fungal…then you go to a dermatologist, and she says it’s definately not fungal…somethings a miss here…

I def don’t eat processed meats. The only canned meat I eat is tuna. Don’t drink too much alcohol(wine on the weekend, beer if I meet up with friends on the weekend).

I wear running shoes when I train(I know, not the best for lifting). Rockports for work, and Columbia trail shoes for daily crap.

the Dr did say if it was a shoe problem, I’d be seeing these issues on both feet. So far it’s only been the left foot.[/quote]

I have had this discussion many times about co-workers in the medical profession. No excuses most Drs do not take the time to investigate they would rather give you a script and go the next $ in the next room. If it was a fungal it would also be on other toes. I have never treated fungal on one digit.

Also our bodies are not symetrical we can have misalignments from one side to the other and that goes for digits also. So it could be the shoes, I dont like to rule anything out. Now topical steroids do soak through the skin so if you are having inflamation of the joint the steroids can be treating that. Again follow up on the Uric acid levels, some people just have gout no matter what they eat.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]tw0scoops2 wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]tw0scoops2 wrote:
That’s what I’m wonderin right now about Gout. They did blood tests, however I’m trying to get in touch with my DR and find out what blood tests they did. I think they did 4 tests.

Is there anything I can do for Gout in the meantime? Cut down on protein, etc? Is it possible to get rid of those gout crystals by changes in diet?

The fact that I have slight discomfort during movement and working out almost rules out bacteria/fungal IMO. [/quote]

Uric acid is a product break down of certain types of proteins. normally process type meats (lunch meat and canned meat) and alcohol make gout worse. However if you are having this post movement could be pseudo gout. I would see an orthopaedic Dr. if your Uric acid levels are normal. What type of shoes do you wear? Normal treatment for gout is NSAIDS (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory) meds like advil/aleve. there is daily medication that can be prescribed to lower uric acid levels. However seems like if you have seen a doc for this they should have already tested and treated for this.[/quote]

My trust in Dr’s has steadily gone downhill the past few years. Especially when you see a Podiatrist, he says it’s definately fungal…then you go to a dermatologist, and she says it’s definately not fungal…somethings a miss here…

I def don’t eat processed meats. The only canned meat I eat is tuna. Don’t drink too much alcohol(wine on the weekend, beer if I meet up with friends on the weekend).

I wear running shoes when I train(I know, not the best for lifting). Rockports for work, and Columbia trail shoes for daily crap.

the Dr did say if it was a shoe problem, I’d be seeing these issues on both feet. So far it’s only been the left foot.[/quote]

I have had this discussion many times about co-workers in the medical profession. No excuses most Drs do not take the time to investigate they would rather give you a script and go the next $ in the next room. If it was a fungal it would also be on other toes. I have never treated fungal on one digit. Also our bodies are not symetrical we can have misalignments from one side to the other and that goes for digits also. So it could be the shoes, I dont like to rule anything out. Now topical steroids do soak through the skin so if you are having inflamation of the joint the steroids can be treating that. Again follow up on the Uric acid levels, some people just have gout no matter what they eat. [/quote]

Thanks, I’ll check them out. Is it possible to have Gout with normal Uric Acid levels?

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[quote]tw0scoops2 wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]tw0scoops2 wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]tw0scoops2 wrote:
That’s what I’m wonderin right now about Gout. They did blood tests, however I’m trying to get in touch with my DR and find out what blood tests they did. I think they did 4 tests.

Is there anything I can do for Gout in the meantime? Cut down on protein, etc? Is it possible to get rid of those gout crystals by changes in diet?

The fact that I have slight discomfort during movement and working out almost rules out bacteria/fungal IMO. [/quote]

Uric acid is a product break down of certain types of proteins. normally process type meats (lunch meat and canned meat) and alcohol make gout worse. However if you are having this post movement could be pseudo gout. I would see an orthopaedic Dr. if your Uric acid levels are normal. What type of shoes do you wear? Normal treatment for gout is NSAIDS (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory) meds like advil/aleve. there is daily medication that can be prescribed to lower uric acid levels. However seems like if you have seen a doc for this they should have already tested and treated for this.[/quote]

My trust in Dr’s has steadily gone downhill the past few years. Especially when you see a Podiatrist, he says it’s definately fungal…then you go to a dermatologist, and she says it’s definately not fungal…somethings a miss here…

I def don’t eat processed meats. The only canned meat I eat is tuna. Don’t drink too much alcohol(wine on the weekend, beer if I meet up with friends on the weekend).

I wear running shoes when I train(I know, not the best for lifting). Rockports for work, and Columbia trail shoes for daily crap.

the Dr did say if it was a shoe problem, I’d be seeing these issues on both feet. So far it’s only been the left foot.[/quote]

I have had this discussion many times about co-workers in the medical profession. No excuses most Drs do not take the time to investigate they would rather give you a script and go the next $ in the next room. If it was a fungal it would also be on other toes. I have never treated fungal on one digit. Also our bodies are not symetrical we can have misalignments from one side to the other and that goes for digits also. So it could be the shoes, I dont like to rule anything out. Now topical steroids do soak through the skin so if you are having inflamation of the joint the steroids can be treating that. Again follow up on the Uric acid levels, some people just have gout no matter what they eat. [/quote]

Thanks, I’ll check them out. Is it possible to have Gout with normal Uric Acid levels?[/quote]

Yes. That is why a lot of Drs do not continue to investigate problems the human body is always throwing curve balls. It is hard to tell someone that you have no fucking clue what is going on and send you to someone who may be able to figure it out. My suggestion, always have your medical records with you when you go see a new Dr or specialist. No point in repeating shit that has already been done.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]tw0scoops2 wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]tw0scoops2 wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]tw0scoops2 wrote:
That’s what I’m wonderin right now about Gout. They did blood tests, however I’m trying to get in touch with my DR and find out what blood tests they did. I think they did 4 tests.

Is there anything I can do for Gout in the meantime? Cut down on protein, etc? Is it possible to get rid of those gout crystals by changes in diet?

The fact that I have slight discomfort during movement and working out almost rules out bacteria/fungal IMO. [/quote]

Uric acid is a product break down of certain types of proteins. normally process type meats (lunch meat and canned meat) and alcohol make gout worse. However if you are having this post movement could be pseudo gout. I would see an orthopaedic Dr. if your Uric acid levels are normal. What type of shoes do you wear? Normal treatment for gout is NSAIDS (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory) meds like advil/aleve. there is daily medication that can be prescribed to lower uric acid levels. However seems like if you have seen a doc for this they should have already tested and treated for this.[/quote]

My trust in Dr’s has steadily gone downhill the past few years. Especially when you see a Podiatrist, he says it’s definately fungal…then you go to a dermatologist, and she says it’s definately not fungal…somethings a miss here…

I def don’t eat processed meats. The only canned meat I eat is tuna. Don’t drink too much alcohol(wine on the weekend, beer if I meet up with friends on the weekend).

I wear running shoes when I train(I know, not the best for lifting). Rockports for work, and Columbia trail shoes for daily crap.

the Dr did say if it was a shoe problem, I’d be seeing these issues on both feet. So far it’s only been the left foot.[/quote]

I have had this discussion many times about co-workers in the medical profession. No excuses most Drs do not take the time to investigate they would rather give you a script and go the next $ in the next room. If it was a fungal it would also be on other toes. I have never treated fungal on one digit. Also our bodies are not symetrical we can have misalignments from one side to the other and that goes for digits also. So it could be the shoes, I dont like to rule anything out. Now topical steroids do soak through the skin so if you are having inflamation of the joint the steroids can be treating that. Again follow up on the Uric acid levels, some people just have gout no matter what they eat. [/quote]

Thanks, I’ll check them out. Is it possible to have Gout with normal Uric Acid levels?[/quote]

Yes. That is why a lot of Drs do not continue to investigate problems the human body is always throwing curve balls. It is hard to tell someone that you have no fucking clue what is going on and send you to someone who may be able to figure it out. My suggestion, always have your medical records with you when you go see a new Dr or specialist. No point in repeating shit that has already been done. [/quote]

Thanks for your help!

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[quote]tw0scoops2 wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]tw0scoops2 wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]tw0scoops2 wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]tw0scoops2 wrote:
That’s what I’m wonderin right now about Gout. They did blood tests, however I’m trying to get in touch with my DR and find out what blood tests they did. I think they did 4 tests.

Is there anything I can do for Gout in the meantime? Cut down on protein, etc? Is it possible to get rid of those gout crystals by changes in diet?

The fact that I have slight discomfort during movement and working out almost rules out bacteria/fungal IMO. [/quote]

Uric acid is a product break down of certain types of proteins. normally process type meats (lunch meat and canned meat) and alcohol make gout worse. However if you are having this post movement could be pseudo gout. I would see an orthopaedic Dr. if your Uric acid levels are normal. What type of shoes do you wear? Normal treatment for gout is NSAIDS (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory) meds like advil/aleve. there is daily medication that can be prescribed to lower uric acid levels. However seems like if you have seen a doc for this they should have already tested and treated for this.[/quote]

My trust in Dr’s has steadily gone downhill the past few years. Especially when you see a Podiatrist, he says it’s definately fungal…then you go to a dermatologist, and she says it’s definately not fungal…somethings a miss here…

I def don’t eat processed meats. The only canned meat I eat is tuna. Don’t drink too much alcohol(wine on the weekend, beer if I meet up with friends on the weekend).

I wear running shoes when I train(I know, not the best for lifting). Rockports for work, and Columbia trail shoes for daily crap.

the Dr did say if it was a shoe problem, I’d be seeing these issues on both feet. So far it’s only been the left foot.[/quote]

I have had this discussion many times about co-workers in the medical profession. No excuses most Drs do not take the time to investigate they would rather give you a script and go the next $ in the next room. If it was a fungal it would also be on other toes. I have never treated fungal on one digit. Also our bodies are not symetrical we can have misalignments from one side to the other and that goes for digits also. So it could be the shoes, I dont like to rule anything out. Now topical steroids do soak through the skin so if you are having inflamation of the joint the steroids can be treating that. Again follow up on the Uric acid levels, some people just have gout no matter what they eat. [/quote]

Thanks, I’ll check them out. Is it possible to have Gout with normal Uric Acid levels?[/quote]

Yes. That is why a lot of Drs do not continue to investigate problems the human body is always throwing curve balls. It is hard to tell someone that you have no fucking clue what is going on and send you to someone who may be able to figure it out. My suggestion, always have your medical records with you when you go see a new Dr or specialist. No point in repeating shit that has already been done. [/quote]

Thanks for your help![/quote]

Any time and I second the injury forum.