I’ve had great success with the 2 on/4 off - it’s my favorite cycle which I’ve done God knows how many times.
Now from what Bill Roberts said, the 3-5 week cycles are the worst in terms of cost/benefit ratio, meaning, 3-5 weeks are long enough to suppress your natural testosterone production and increase the recovery period, but not long enough to get sizable benefits. Meaning, your cycles should either be 2 weeks on or 6-8 weeks on.
Personally, I love the 2 weeks on 4 weeks off, because I can basically go as heavy with steroid use as I want, with multiple orals and injectables like propionate, enanthate (if load up on it on the first day of your cycle) and winstrol is very useful here, since it doesn’t have a classic half-life.
This sort of heavy use does suppress your natural hormone production, but I always do use Clomid after the cycle, and recovery after 2 weeks on is extremely quick, while the gains you make are nothing short of spectacular.
I once added Anadrol to the stack (I’ve tried that once), and I gained 11 kilograms in 2 weeks! That’s 24 lbs! And yeah, sure, there was a lot of water retention there (which is why I dislike Anadrol) and some fat gain too, but the water goes away after 4-5 days and you’re left with an extremely impressive mass gain.
As for 2 on/2 off, you’re not giving your receptors enough time to recover, I think. I wouldn’t do that if I were you, even with Clomid.[/quote]
Yeah nice post bud, but I don't agree 100% with the two on two off completely shutting you down. At two weeks only the hypothalamus is shutdown, and your pituitary is still going, even now being "sensitized" to getting more out of the lower GnRH from the hypo than normal, and then sending the LH down to the testes and from there you have your natural testosterone, so that's why it's a very quick rebound back to normal. Once you go past the 3 week mark though, then your pituitary shuts down and now your test is zero cause there's nothing going to the testes now ie: LH. Now it's a lot longer haul to get the test back up to normal levels see?
I'm no expert, but I think there's some validity to what I wrote. That's just my opinion based on what I read from Bill R though and from anatomy. Anyway, to each his own, sounds solid, and you definitely don't hurt going with four off that's for sure. You just don't have that "hypersensitive" pituitary reaction for that long I don't think, but it's a mute point then. I'm just saying that you can do a few 2 on/2 off, then take your longer spell off and keep your gains that's all.
Again, good experience and posting.