I believe research has shown that 15min in the sun is enough for your body to produce enough Vitamin D.
Melanotan II works like a charm. I went from white to brown in a little of 2 weeks. And when I say brown, I mean dark brown. It was ridiculous how I looked, but it was for photos and they turned out great.
I used up to 1mg/day and that was more than enough. 0.5mg/day works fine and will make you darker then necessary.
Check out melanotan.org if you’re interested in information.
Don’t go get fried, wear some sunscreen and moderate your hours in the sun. Don’t go out of your way to get as dark as possible but if it happens it happens.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
Usually MT-II comes in 10mg vials. It is typically “loaded” at 1mg/d for a number of days, but this is really unnecessary. UV exposure IS necessary, but it doesn’t take much to experience some pretty unbelievable results. I usually end up getting too tan, and people comment way too much for my liking. I usually use it before a show, but, if very small amounts are used consistently, I think it can be a terrific way to get a nice summer tan without all of the dangers that large amounts of UV exposure entail.
.25-.5mg ED with moderate UV exposure the first week or two. Gradually increase UV exposure after W2 and then drop the dosage (a lot) after your desired level of darkness has been achieved.[/quote]
It can depend very much on the person. If I recall correctly I was using 0.25 mg 2x/day when I started using the stuff, and by about the two week point I was going out in the Florida sun for an hour or two in the later afternoon pretty much every day. But only once I got past 30 mg of total usage did I have much results at all. Actually I didn’t have what I considered enough results until well past 50 mg total usage. And the tan at that point was not as much as yours.
There are others who have testified similarly on the Melanotan forum.
But then there are some that have had results such as yours.
It is great stuff for those who don’t develop moles from it.
Tan. always. and for those freaked about cancer, salon quality spray tan doesnt turn orange.
Hmm interesting about the melaNOTAN.
I’ve always tanned very easily. however, I have never set foot in a tanning salon. I dont understand the attraction. Most tanning bed addicts look unnatural, and doing so in the middle of winter makes you stick out even more. I saw a girl I went to highschool with the other day, hadnt seen her in about 5 years…and she looked like she was 45…she just looked awful. I remember how she used to brag about how much tanning she did back in the day. This is also the type of girl who ALWAYS has her hair dyed and wears more make up then a porn star. So many girls spend so much time trying to look like someone else rather then looking like themselves (see: unique). Go to any club now and see how many “blonds” there are with racoon eyes. They all look the same, which is terrible in the morning. I find it boring to be honest.
[quote]mr popular wrote:
I personally believe that sun exposure is important to our health and the optimal functioning of our bodies. However, abusing sun exposure or tanning/burning excessively is of course going to lead to bad things.
But these people that never go out into the sun because they’re afraid of cancer are more likely to wind up with health problems because of this.[/quote]
Best summary yet, but I just have to try to improve upon it. LOL!
We evolved in the sun light. There’s nothing terribly wrong with it; just don’t roast yourself.
Exposure to UV light sets off a chain of chemical reactions in the skin which are beneficial to the body in a variety of ways. Here are two: UV exposure produces MSH (Melanin Stimulating Hormone, the body’s version of Melanotan) which increases metabolism and enables lipolysis (fat burning.) It produces shit loads of vitamin D which is a proven anticancer agent and also a mood enhancer / antidepressant. Go to Pubmed sometime and do some searches on vitamin D, UV, MSH, etc. The abstracts are pretty interesting.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
Usually MT-II comes in 10mg vials. It is typically “loaded” at 1mg/d for a number of days, but this is really unnecessary. UV exposure IS necessary, but it doesn’t take much to experience some pretty unbelievable results. I usually end up getting too tan, and people comment way too much for my liking. I usually use it before a show, but, if very small amounts are used consistently, I think it can be a terrific way to get a nice summer tan without all of the dangers that large amounts of UV exposure entail.
.25-.5mg ED with moderate UV exposure the first week or two. Gradually increase UV exposure after W2 and then drop the dosage (a lot) after your desired level of darkness has been achieved.[/quote]
It can depend very much on the person. If I recall correctly I was using 0.25 mg 2x/day when I started using the stuff, and by about the two week point I was going out in the Florida sun for an hour or two in the later afternoon pretty much every day. But only once I got past 30 mg of total usage did I have much results at all. Actually I didn’t have what I considered enough results until well past 50 mg total usage. And the tan at that point was not as much as yours.
There are others who have testified similarly on the Melanotan forum.
But then there are some that have had results such as yours.
It is great stuff for those who don’t develop moles from it.
[/quote]
Good point, Bill, I should have made more clear that I was speaking from my own experience. Again in my experience, the moles are a little freaky, but they appear not to actually be new formations, but darkening of previously unnoticeable spots. Mine go away again once I stop using the MT and tanning.
[quote]trav123456 wrote:
Hmm interesting about the melatonin.[/quote]
Heh. Careful. MelaTONIN and MelaNOTAN are two completely different things, with completely different results. The if you take the former before laying out in the sun, you are far more likely to end up with a sunburn than if you take the latter. 
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
Usually MT-II comes in 10mg vials. It is typically “loaded” at 1mg/d for a number of days, but this is really unnecessary. UV exposure IS necessary, but it doesn’t take much to experience some pretty unbelievable results. I usually end up getting too tan, and people comment way too much for my liking. I usually use it before a show, but, if very small amounts are used consistently, I think it can be a terrific way to get a nice summer tan without all of the dangers that large amounts of UV exposure entail.
.25-.5mg ED with moderate UV exposure the first week or two. Gradually increase UV exposure after W2 and then drop the dosage (a lot) after your desired level of darkness has been achieved.[/quote]
It can depend very much on the person. If I recall correctly I was using 0.25 mg 2x/day when I started using the stuff, and by about the two week point I was going out in the Florida sun for an hour or two in the later afternoon pretty much every day. But only once I got past 30 mg of total usage did I have much results at all. Actually I didn’t have what I considered enough results until well past 50 mg total usage. And the tan at that point was not as much as yours.
There are others who have testified similarly on the Melanotan forum.
But then there are some that have had results such as yours.
It is great stuff for those who don’t develop moles from it.
[/quote]
Does it make you achy and lethargic? Mild flu-like symptoms? Especially at the doses you mentioned?[/quote]
Certainly not. Actually, this sounds a whole lot like symptoms from contaminated gear. I’ve never heard of these symptoms from a peptide, however.
I haven’t read anything about it in a pretty long time, but I seem to recall the side effects being nausea, increased libido and spontaneous erections, none of which I experienced even at 1mg/day.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]trav123456 wrote:
Hmm interesting about the melatonin.[/quote]
Heh. Careful. MelaTONIN and MelaNOTAN are two completely different things, with completely different results. The if you take the former before laying out in the sun, you are far more likely to end up with a sunburn than if you take the latter. ;)[/quote]
Good catch lol, I didn’t even notice.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
Usually MT-II comes in 10mg vials. It is typically “loaded” at 1mg/d for a number of days, but this is really unnecessary. UV exposure IS necessary, but it doesn’t take much to experience some pretty unbelievable results. I usually end up getting too tan, and people comment way too much for my liking. I usually use it before a show, but, if very small amounts are used consistently, I think it can be a terrific way to get a nice summer tan without all of the dangers that large amounts of UV exposure entail.
.25-.5mg ED with moderate UV exposure the first week or two. Gradually increase UV exposure after W2 and then drop the dosage (a lot) after your desired level of darkness has been achieved.[/quote]
It can depend very much on the person. If I recall correctly I was using 0.25 mg 2x/day when I started using the stuff, and by about the two week point I was going out in the Florida sun for an hour or two in the later afternoon pretty much every day. But only once I got past 30 mg of total usage did I have much results at all. Actually I didn’t have what I considered enough results until well past 50 mg total usage. And the tan at that point was not as much as yours.
There are others who have testified similarly on the Melanotan forum.
But then there are some that have had results such as yours.
It is great stuff for those who don’t develop moles from it.
[/quote]
Does it make you achy and lethargic? Mild flu-like symptoms? Especially at the doses you mentioned?[/quote]
Certainly not. Actually, this sounds a whole lot like symptoms from contaminated gear. I’ve never heard of these symptoms from a peptide, however.
I haven’t read anything about it in a pretty long time, but I seem to recall the side effects being nausea, increased libido and spontaneous erections, none of which I experienced even at 1mg/day.
[/quote]
No doubt about it. Affects me this way. And it absolutely is the MT-II.
Yes - tolerable, short term nausea.
Yes - increased libido and erections.
Yes - about 18 hours of achy feeling lethargy.
All this at .75 mg.[/quote]
Have you tried MT-I yet?
Where do you purchase M-II from? Is it a legal supplement in Japan or do you still have to order it online?
p.s. Since joining this site I’ve always wondered why the steroid forum people never associate with the other forums?
[quote]Enders Drift wrote:
Where do you purchase M-II from? Is it a legal supplement in Japan or do you still have to order it online?
p.s. Since joining this site I’ve always wondered why the steroid forum people never associate with the other forums?[/quote]
My understanding is that melanotan II has not been approved for medical use in any country so no matter where you get it from it would have to be from some sort of underground source. Melanotan I however is approved and available by Rx in some countries.
I find the whole “intentional” tanning thing to be pretty amusing. If you manage to get a tan from working or playing outdoors, cool, but the whole laying out thing, going to tanning beds, spraying stuff on, and now, taking certain supplements, all for a darker complexion, just makes me chuckle a bit more. Some say it’s because they look “healthier”. Others do it for contests. I honestly don’t see what is so wrong about people’s natural complexions. In my eyes, lighter-skinned people just don’t look natural when they are showing up closer to my complexion. Hell, I’m pretty dark myself, but you can only imagine just how much darker I get in the summer. Needless to say, it’s pretty bad when you go from dark brown skin to pitch black with purplish hues! Just my thoughts on the matter…
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]eic wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]waldo21212 wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
Melanotan.[/quote]
I have been looking into this - but doesn’t it just help you tan faster and hold a tan longer? From what I read on melanotan.org you still have to get some UV exposure for it to work, albeit much less exposure then you would usually need. [/quote]
Way, way, way, way, way less. And no sunburn ever if used correctly and you plan accordingly. [/quote]
LIke, how much less are we talking and how much melanotan is needed to get there? If it’s a few injects a week and one tanning session a week, I’m in.
For the record, I am half Middle Eastern, so I tan very, very easily. Also, I am not looking to get step-on-stage, “Is he half black?” tan; just a little darkness to give me a healthy complexion.[/quote]
You may not like it, then, to be honest. It is extremely potent, in my experience.
Usually MT-II comes in 10mg vials. It is typically “loaded” at 1mg/d for a number of days, but this is really unnecessary. UV exposure IS necessary, but it doesn’t take much to experience some pretty unbelievable results. I usually end up getting too tan, and people comment way too much for my liking. I usually use it before a show, but, if very small amounts are used consistently, I think it can be a terrific way to get a nice summer tan without all of the dangers that large amounts of UV exposure entail.
.25-.5mg ED with moderate UV exposure the first week or two. Gradually increase UV exposure after W2 and then drop the dosage (a lot) after your desired level of darkness has been achieved. Keep in mind you’ll end up continuing to get darker beyond when you drop the dosage, so you need to actually start dropping it before you are where you want to be. You won’t, but I’ll just give the advice anyway. I always miss my mark and end up too dark and have to completely drop the MT-II altogether. And, for the record, I have the base complexion of the Pillsbury Dough Boy.[/quote]
is it legal to buy?
[quote]Enders Drift wrote:
Where do you purchase M-II from? Is it a legal supplement in Japan or do you still have to order it online?
p.s. Since joining this site I’ve always wondered why the steroid forum people never associate with the other forums?[/quote]
We’re social pariahs.
MT-1 and MT-II are legal (for now) and you can actually get it in the US domestically as a research product, I believe.
All of the peptides and anabolic steroids that I can think of (and I can think of a lot) are legal for personal use in Japan. They are not legal for sale here for the most part, but you can import them. One of the nice things about living here. But don’t think that just because they are legal here that means the Japanese government is somehow more enlightened than the American one.
If anything they are worse about “protecting” us. I’m just lucky. Steroids are completely off the radar because 99.5% of Japanese guys have NO interest in bodybuilding or getting big. Most of them are too busy trying to look like women. (<==This last statement is not derogatory, it is a statement of fact.)