Tips for Dealing with Plantar Fasciitis?

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
fightnews10 wrote:
I was doing some yoga exercises on the wii that seemed to help but I didn’t keep it up because I couldn’t confirm they helped. Basically it was just balancing on one foot at a time.

Say what? You know this is like me writing on a yoga forum. “I was doing some bodybuilding exercises on my resistance band. Basically it was just arm curls and upright rows. But since I didn’t keep it up, I didn’t see any difference.”

In other words, it is a pointless exercise. Sorry for the harsh words, but there you are.

Seriously, the Wii Fit???

BBB

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No it be like saying i was doing some power lifting on mt Chuck Norris total workout machine!

[quote]marlboroman wrote:
xvimlar wrote:
I leave a tennis ball on the floor under my desk pretty much all the time, I only wear shoes when I have to and living in Michigan I hit the beaches as much as possible, running on the sand is great exercise, good for your feet and good for the skin on your feet as well. The problems I have with my feet anymore, are finding shoes that fit, 11w shouldn’t be that hard to find but it seems most non-specialty stores have eliminated the wide sizes, at least around here.

thats whats kinda odd about this PF crap…some guys say to walk barefoot as much as possible ; even run barefoot . during my 2 bouts , walking barefoot was a definite trigger for extreme discomfort ; running barefoot on sand or grass…hell , I doubt if I could have made 5 steps . and ladders too ; a few trips up a ladder brought on a world of hurt. some days , I couldnt even WALK more than a few steps on grass before my whole foot would cramp up , all the way up into the upper calf .

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The doctors say to never go barefoot.

Anybody a fan of cortisone?

fuck doctors

i like to go barefoot a lot, and that seems to have allieviated my pain, as i no longer am affected by it. rolling on the balls helps, liftin in chuck taylors or in socks helps. foam roll your quads, hammies ect

doctors are actually pretty cool

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

Seriously, the Wii Fit???

BBB

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Don’t get mad because you can’t even play in the top 3 high scores.

Anyway, my friend is a therapist and said if the PF is bad, heavy weighted (read: body weight) ball rolling on the sole can potentially tear fascia. Is that true, BBB?

Maybe it is a good idea to hold off on the heavy point rolling until the inflammation dies down (with cold compresses, orthodics) ?

Something I doubt you’ve been doing… REST

Amputate. :wink:

Tennis ball followed by ice.

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:

Seriously, the Wii Fit???

BBB

Don’t get mad because you can’t even play in the top 3 high scores.

Anyway, my friend is a therapist and said if the PF is bad, heavy weighted (read: body weight) ball rolling on the sole can potentially tear fascia. Is that true, BBB?

Maybe it is a good idea to hold off on the heavy point rolling until the inflammation dies down (with cold compresses, orthodics) ?[/quote]

Funny you mentioned that because 2 days ago I over rolled my feet with the tennis ball and the pain was much worse the next day. Thank god it went back to where it was pre rolling.

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
PonceDeLeon wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:

Seriously, the Wii Fit???

BBB

Don’t get mad because you can’t even play in the top 3 high scores.

Anyway, my friend is a therapist and said if the PF is bad, heavy weighted (read: body weight) ball rolling on the sole can potentially tear fascia. Is that true, BBB?

Maybe it is a good idea to hold off on the heavy point rolling until the inflammation dies down (with cold compresses, orthodics) ?

Dude, my WiiFit age is about 67 or some crap, lol.

Anyway, I would think that logically, you are right; bodyweight compression of fascia onto bony spurs could result in internal laceration of tissues.

I guess a definition of ‘bad’ PF is indeed bony spurs or growths from the calcaneus so I would say that your therapist friend is right.

BBB[/quote]

That wii fit thing is biased against hugeness, You have to be a skinny little puke to get a good Wii fit age

To the people saying going barefoot is bad because doctors say so, ask yourself, did humans evolve wearing shoes? You are perfectly fine walking barefoot/in sandals everywhere, the problem lies with ankle/knee/hip mobility dysfunction caused through inadequate flexibility/ incorrect motor patterns.

[quote]Therizza wrote:
To the people saying going barefoot is bad because doctors say so, ask yourself, did humans evolve wearing shoes? You are perfectly fine walking barefoot/in sandals everywhere, the problem lies with ankle/knee/hip mobility dysfunction caused through inadequate flexibility/ incorrect motor patterns.[/quote]

Evolution didn’t plan on broken glass on concrete while your sprinting up hill. People are different and live in different types of areas. Blindly recommending going barefoot in all situations for all people his pretty much dumb advice.

A good friend of mine had this issue, and he would take a cold can of soda and roll his foot over it. He said that it helped it feel a hell of a lot better.

[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Therizza wrote:
To the people saying going barefoot is bad because doctors say so, ask yourself, did humans evolve wearing shoes? You are perfectly fine walking barefoot/in sandals everywhere, the problem lies with ankle/knee/hip mobility dysfunction caused through inadequate flexibility/ incorrect motor patterns.

Evolution didn’t plan on broken glass on concrete while your sprinting up hill. People are different and live in different types of areas. Blindly recommending going barefoot in all situations for all people his pretty much dumb advice.[/quote]

so walking around inside your home is bad to do barefoot? spending time out of shoes is what i’m recommending, not barefoot running. Fuck that shit! It hurts.

[quote]Therizza wrote:

so walking around inside your home is bad to do barefoot? spending time out of shoes is what i’m recommending, not barefoot running. Fuck that shit! It hurts.[/quote]

I went to the NSCA national conference, and one of the talks I went to was about (among other things) barefoot running. You have to completely change your form. The use of running shoes allows us to take a stride way, way longer than we’re intended to while running. Hell, your heel doesn’t touch the ground when you’re running barefoot properly.

You pretty much take really short strides, stay on the balls of your feet, and increase your RPMs. You’re slower to begin with, but you can get really fast running like that, all while reducing your chance of injury.

[quote]Therizza wrote:
To the people saying going barefoot is bad because doctors say so, ask yourself, did humans evolve wearing shoes? You are perfectly fine walking barefoot/in sandals everywhere, the problem lies with ankle/knee/hip mobility dysfunction caused through inadequate flexibility/ incorrect motor patterns.[/quote]

No the problem lies with having PF and making it worse by going barefoot.

I had it for about six months. I can’t remark of Physical therapy, because I didn’t do much other than stretching out the Achilles tendon. Maybe if I did, it wouldn’t have lasted so long.

However the big change I made was to wear Birkenstock sandals around the house instead of going barefoot. I also reevaluated the footwear I was using for exercising or any major walking around during the day. It’s very important to get the correct width and arch height. Prevention is much less painful

BTW, anyone else notice over the last few years that almost every man over 40 (like myself) wears New Balance sneakers? Great selection of widths and types, I guess.

[quote]fightnews10 wrote:
marlboroman wrote:
xvimlar wrote:
I leave a tennis ball on the floor under my desk pretty much all the time, I only wear shoes when I have to and living in Michigan I hit the beaches as much as possible, running on the sand is great exercise, good for your feet and good for the skin on your feet as well. The problems I have with my feet anymore, are finding shoes that fit, 11w shouldn’t be that hard to find but it seems most non-specialty stores have eliminated the wide sizes, at least around here.

thats whats kinda odd about this PF crap…some guys say to walk barefoot as much as possible ; even run barefoot . during my 2 bouts , walking barefoot was a definite trigger for extreme discomfort ; running barefoot on sand or grass…hell , I doubt if I could have made 5 steps . and ladders too ; a few trips up a ladder brought on a world of hurt. some days , I couldnt even WALK more than a few steps on grass before my whole foot would cramp up , all the way up into the upper calf .

The doctors say to never go barefoot.
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These doctors are off base. You are trying to tell me that being in our natural state, barefoot, could somehow be detrimental. No f***ing way. The problem comes from wearing shoes and then quickly switching to barefeet. When you walk barefooted, you extend more with the calf stretching the entire rear of the leg and the PF. The main cause of PF is tightness in the achilles.

Got this advice from my doctor who also lifts. Slowly progress to being barefoot more often. Start with a conscious effort to be barefoot 20 more minutes a day while walking (around the house or where ever). Once I progressed to a full hour of being barefoot, he had me wear Vibram Five Fingers to lift, run, etc. I have not had PF since. I even where my five fingers out to dinner, the movies, etc. You get a lot of strange looks but my body alignment feels great.

[quote]hedge wrote:
I had it for about six months. I can’t remark of Physical therapy, because I didn’t do much other than stretching out the Achilles tendon. Maybe if I did, it wouldn’t have lasted so long.

However the big change I made was to wear Birkenstock sandals around the house instead of going barefoot. I also reevaluated the footwear I was using for exercising or any major walking around during the day. It’s very important to get the correct width and arch height. Prevention is much less painful

BTW, anyone else notice over the last few years that almost every man over 40 (like myself) wears New Balance sneakers? Great selection of widths and types, I guess.[/quote]

I’ve had that sandal recomended to me

from the reading I’ve done , here and elsewhere ,I get the impression that foot problems are often caused by poor mechanics…in the foot itself , or even in the ham/glute/hip region . just poor walking habits .

what I’d like to know , is what kind of specialist can TELL a guy exactly what the problem is and how to fix it . as in …is the foot rolling to the inside or outside ?all my podiatrist could say is that the pain is from inflamation ; but what caused the inflamation in the first place ? I think my chiro was a bit more informative , but not enough to do any good in the future . I’d like to find someone who can observe my walk , and make recomendations based on what is seen as the foot does it’s job .

does any such specialist exist ?