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Time for Palin to Bow Out?

For the record, i’m an independent, but this election I support John McCain, mostly becuase I think Obama and his “ideas” are full of shit. When McCain picked Palin, my first thought was “i’d hit it,” and then “well, if she can rally the conservative vote, more power to McCain.”

Fast forward 4 weeks. McCain has lost the excitement Palin brought to the ticket. She has looked AWFUL in interviews. I had to stop watching the Katie Couric interview it got so bad. The bump McCain got by picking Palin is a thing of the past. Now, he is stuck with her and I, like a lot of McCain supporters, are very very worried about thursday. Who doesn’t think McCain would love to have Romney, Pawlenty, or heck even Lieberman (if his party would let him) on the ticket RIGHT NOW. Maybe by picking Romney or Pawlenty he might not ave gotten the big convention bounce, but nobody can argue that he would be in a MUCH better position in regrards to the polling and winning the election.

There have been a number of conservative republicans telling the media that while they supported Palin, she is becoming a liability for McCain and should drop out. More lackluster performances on the national spotlight and her and McCain may be toast.

So, does Palin stay or go? Can McCain still win with her on the ticket? Granted, Biden is doing Obama no favors, but he’s not nearly the liability that Palin is.

Rational Republicans who actually care about the state of The Union should be begging her to step down. She is clearly not qualified to handle the job of VP or, God help us, President. Unfortunately, since the McCain camp cares more about winning than providing a qualified presidential pair they’ll keep her since she clearly appeals to middle America and the massive Christian voting base. (The real open minded and rational types who vote on abortion- and nothing else.)

This win-at-all costs approach is an insult and a tragedy when unqualified candidates are thrust upon voters as nothing more than a gimmick.

[quote]Noodle_Arms wrote:
Rational anybody who actually cares about the state of The Union should be begging Obama to Europe where he belongs. He is clearly un American in his ideology and hence not qualified to handle the job of janotor or, God help us, President. Unfortunately, since the Obama camp cares more about winning than providing a qualified presidential pair they’ll keep him since he clearly appeals to the simpleton socialized brainwashed masses. (The idiots who have no idea why they vote.)

This win-at-all costs approach is an insult and a tragedy when marxist socialist candidates are thrust upon voters as nothing more than a gimmicky campaign of disinformation.[/quote]

Fixed all that for ya.

I’m Tiribulus and I now approve this post.

The party approach to her just keeps getting more interesting. She is the first candidate with a “hands off” approach to the press. They agreed only to a VP debate after the Dems agreed to a “scripted” read “non-debate”. Unlike the last debate this one will be more of a Q&A session. Her baggage and the party’s reaction is facinating. The government (Republicans included) want to investigate her past (using Yahoo mail to subvert goverment reporting, abuse of power, etc.). Instead she is ignoring subpoenas. People involved are ignoring subpoenas and making a mockery of the court system (can you say Cheney-Lite?). Ignore a subpoena as a commoner (anyone not involved in government) and it is “Failure to Appear” and a separate court charge. The best thing that McCain could do is drop her like a hot rock and go back to Romney. That alone would give him a huge bounce. That would make it a hell of alot easier to vote Republican as in prior years.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Noodle_Arms wrote:
Rational anybody who actually cares about the state of The Union should be begging Obama to Europe where he belongs. He is clearly un American in his ideology and hence not qualified to handle the job of janotor or, God help us, President. Unfortunately, since the Obama camp cares more about winning than providing a qualified presidential pair they’ll keep him since he clearly appeals to the simpleton socialized brainwashed masses. (The idiots who have no idea why they vote.)

This win-at-all costs approach is an insult and a tragedy when marxist socialist candidates are thrust upon voters as nothing more than a gimmicky campaign of disinformation.

Fixed all that for ya.

I’m Tiribulus and I now approve this post.[/quote]

Meh. Could have been more isolationist. Good amount of self-righteousness though calling the Obama voters idiots. It also could have been a bit more jingoistic. (You really can never have enough of that! AMERICA AMERICA AMERICA!) Lastly, you didn’t mention that Obama is a Muslim even if he isn’t. That cost you a letter grade. I’ll give it a C+. Keep watching Hannity and you’ll be up to the A range by election time.

If they had a legit vp debate and she had a stunning performance, it could help her a lot. As it stands right now, you have to question McCain’s judgment if he thought this was the best candidate for the job.

If she (or Biden for that matter)were to step down, what would happen with all of the absentee ballots that have already been sent out?

Has this ever happened before and, if so, how close to the election was it?

Why would someone unqualified and inexperienced bow out? Who would Biden then pick as his veep?

[quote]Noodle_Arms wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Noodle_Arms wrote:
Rational anybody who actually cares about the state of The Union should be begging Obama to Europe where he belongs. He is clearly un American in his ideology and hence not qualified to handle the job of janotor or, God help us, President.

Unfortunately, since the Obama camp cares more about winning than providing a qualified presidential pair they’ll keep him since he clearly appeals to the simpleton socialized brainwashed masses. (The idiots who have no idea why they vote.)

This win-at-all costs approach is an insult and a tragedy when marxist socialist candidates are thrust upon voters as nothing more than a gimmicky campaign of disinformation.

Fixed all that for ya.

I’m Tiribulus and I now approve this post.

Meh. Could have been more isolationist. Good amount of self-righteousness though calling the Obama voters idiots. It also could have been a bit more jingoistic. (You really can never have enough of that! AMERICA AMERICA AMERICA!)

Lastly, you didn’t mention that Obama is a Muslim even if he isn’t. That cost you a letter grade. I’ll give it a C+. Keep watching Hannity and you’ll be up to the A range by election time.
[/quote]

Either read more of my posts so you can avoid future embarrassment by misrepresenting my views or keep talking and continue to blast your own credibility.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Noodle_Arms wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Noodle_Arms wrote:
Rational anybody who actually cares about the state of The Union should be begging Obama to Europe where he belongs. He is clearly un American in his ideology and hence not qualified to handle the job of janotor or, God help us, President.

Unfortunately, since the Obama camp cares more about winning than providing a qualified presidential pair they’ll keep him since he clearly appeals to the simpleton socialized brainwashed masses. (The idiots who have no idea why they vote.)

This win-at-all costs approach is an insult and a tragedy when marxist socialist candidates are thrust upon voters as nothing more than a gimmicky campaign of disinformation.

Fixed all that for ya.

I’m Tiribulus and I now approve this post.

Meh. Could have been more isolationist. Good amount of self-righteousness though calling the Obama voters idiots. It also could have been a bit more jingoistic. (You really can never have enough of that! AMERICA AMERICA AMERICA!)

Lastly, you didn’t mention that Obama is a Muslim even if he isn’t. That cost you a letter grade. I’ll give it a C+. Keep watching Hannity and you’ll be up to the A range by election time.

Either read more of my posts so you can avoid future embarrassment by misrepresenting my views or keep talking and continue to blast your own credibility.[/quote]

Hey, you respond to my post with a troll post you get one right back. Your post was a troll post wasn’t it? It couldn’t possibly have been serious…

Back on topic, lets remember that Bush won the election with friggin Dukakis as his VP. I don’t think Palin is a lapse of McCain’s judgment as much as it was the need to secure votes in his own party.

If political parties werent so black and white I would have loved to see a McCain-Lieberman ticket, but with Rebubs outnumbered by Dems anyway he would have completely lost the conservative vote.

If Palin were to bow out due to “family reasons” and McCain puts Romney or Pawlenty on the ticket does that completely kill McCain’s chances? There was rumor that Biden is going to bow out after the VP debate, but critics argued that it would completely kill Obama.

[quote]MapShooter wrote:
Back on topic, lets remember that Bush won the election with friggin Dukakis as his VP. … [/quote]

Do you mean Quayle?

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
MapShooter wrote:
Back on topic, lets remember that Bush won the election with friggin Dukakis as his VP. …

Do you mean Quayle?

Zap, let’s face it, I don’t think we’re dealing with a history or pol science major here.[/quote]

Nope, international business and religion major

[quote]Noodle_Arms wrote:
<<< It couldn’t possibly have been serious…
[/quote]

I was deadly serious

[quote]MapShooter wrote:
Back on topic, lets remember that Bush won the election with friggin Dukakis as his VP.[/quote]

I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

[quote]RoadWarrior wrote:
The party approach to her just keeps getting more interesting. She is the first candidate with a “hands off” approach to the press. They agreed only to a VP debate after the Dems agreed to a “scripted” read “non-debate”.

Unlike the last debate this one will be more of a Q&A session. Her baggage and the party’s reaction is facinating. The government (Republicans included) want to investigate her past (using Yahoo mail to subvert goverment reporting, abuse of power, etc.).

Instead she is ignoring subpoenas. People involved are ignoring subpoenas and making a mockery of the court system (can you say Cheney-Lite?). Ignore a subpoena as a commoner (anyone not involved in government) and it is “Failure to Appear” and a separate court charge.

The best thing that McCain could do is drop her like a hot rock and go back to Romney. That alone would give him a huge bounce. That would make it a hell of alot easier to vote Republican as in prior years. [/quote]

I wonder about what Obama did all of those years as a “community organizer”? Especially considering some of his radical associations. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if they in fact already have some dirt on him for an “October Surprise”.

[quote]jp_dubya wrote:
Why would someone unqualified and inexperienced bow out? Who would Biden then pick as his veep?[/quote]

Good one. But we’re not allowed to touch the Golden boy Obama,

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
MapShooter wrote:
Back on topic, lets remember that Bush won the election with friggin Dukakis as his VP.

I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.[/quote]

Go ahead and laugh - it is more fun and healthier.

[quote]jp_dubya wrote:
Why would someone unqualified and inexperienced bow out? Who would Biden then pick as his veep?[/quote]

Very good question dubya. I say he would pick Hillary. Either that or he and Hillary would flip for it.