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Threatened at the Gym

Last night while I was leaving the gym at about nine taking a friend home a little punk junior high kid started pestering me about some spare change that had falen out of my pocket. I told him to shutup, and as I started to get into my truck he produces a knife and makes a motion like he is going to slash the back tire on my truck. I tell him I would hammer him if he did it, and he threatened back I would be dead if I tried.

Has anyone else ever had a problem like this. If so or if not, what would you guys do in this kind of situation? I’m either going to try and handle it like a christian and try to talk to him about it or thrash him and humiliate him the next time I see him. ( I think he plays b-ball in the gym often, though I’ve never seen him before.)

[quote]Finalyear wrote:
Last night while I was leaving the gym at about nine taking a friend home a little punk junior high kid started pestering me about some spare change that had falen out of my pocket. I told him to shutup, and as I started to get into my truck he produces a knife and makes a motion like he is going to slash the back tire on my truck. I tell him I would hammer him if he did it, and he threatened back I would be dead if I tried.[/quote]

If this is true, this is the lamest reproduction of facts that I have ever seen. “Pestering you about spare change”? What does this mean? How was he pestering you? It was yours, right? Did you pick it up? Did he want it? Why did you tell him to shut up? Was that the Christian in you talking? It doesn’t sound like trouble just sought you out.

Handle it in a way that will not get you thrown into jail. Also, even the stupidest punk kid becomes dangerous with a knife.

Last but not least, if you do beat the shit of the kid, will you have to deal with him and his friends hounding you for years?

Fight in self defense if needed. If you think the situation is getting out of control, tell the police. At the very least, tell the management at the gym. Then if he does attack you, and you’re forced to whoop on the kid, you’ll have more legal backup.

i have had knives and guns pulled out on me and my friends for various stupid reasons. It mostly happens after a night of drinking though. I have found that the best things to do is aplogize (sp?) as fast as you can. And just reason with then, tell them it was all your fault and your sorry. Usually this works. Except for the time this kid i know got cut from his hip to his neck. he needed hundreds of stiches. It was bad news.

[quote]graphicsMan wrote:
Handle it in a way that will not get you thrown into jail. Also, even the stupidest punk kid becomes dangerous with a knife.

Last but not least, if you do beat the shit of the kid, will you have to deal with him and his friends hounding you for years?

Fight in self defense if needed. If you think the situation is getting out of control, tell the police. At the very least, tell the management at the gym. Then if he does attack you, and you’re forced to whoop on the kid, you’ll have more legal backup.[/quote]

This is probably the best advise.

Whenever possible (safe), remove yourself from the area and call 911. Get the pros with the guns to come arrest a knife weilding threat. Don’t escalate the situation. Your life is not worth the less the friendly exchange of words described. Lethal weapons (knife) and the will to use them negate much of a size/strength differential. Make a good witness and help get the youngster a vacation in the state correctional system. You’ll avoid the wrong side of the court and/or health care/funeral system.

Head to the worst part of your town. Find some REAL thugs, give em each a couple hundred bucks and tell em where the kids hangs out. Or a ski mask, welding, welding gloves, steel toed boots, duct tape, 2 sawed off broom sticks, his adress, and one properly parked running car could work.

More realistically you should take the apologetic advise and realize that anyone who is going to pull knife on you “over spare chang” (btw that sounds like bullshit) probably is a fucking loser scumbag and has less going then you. In other words do you really want to sit in court/a jail cell with a peice of shit like that and have to deal with it FOREVER? Probably not. Just smile and know that most likely if he keeps that up someone will most likely kill him or beat him very badly.

Make a police report. You don’t neccasarily need to press charges, but get the incident documented. Paper on your side will go a long way in there are further situations. For example, if there is damage to your car, or if you have to fight in self defense.

Inform gym management. Maybe this has happened before with others. If he is a member, they may possibly revoke his membership and ban him from the properity.

Depending on state laws, his would make it tresspassing for him to even be near the gym (and you and your car).

As satisfying as it would be to wallop this punk, your best course of action is to be the better man and walk away. Of course, you always have a right to defend yourself, but keep in mind an adult (you) fighting a minor looks real bad in court.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
If this is true, this is the lamest reproduction of facts that I have ever seen. “Pestering you about spare change”? What does this mean? How was he pestering you? It was yours, right? Did you pick it up? Did he want it? Why did you tell him to shut up? Was that the Christian in you talking? It doesn’t sound like trouble just sought you out.[/quote]

I agree. This story aint stirrin’ the kool aid.

just remember, no ones too old or too young for an ass whupin

I’d say the advice Zeppelin gave is right on…that’s assuming of course, the story is true. Inform gym management and file a police report.

Got any spare change mister?

Gimme a dollar.

These are exactly the kinds of things punks say when trying to intimidate.

I have heard it myself. His story seems credible.

That was the worst fuckin story ever. I feel dirty now.

See knife … run.

Call the police. Seriously.

Geek boy

I have had the "hey sir can you spare some change, a dollar, whatever and then you hear a fast story about they ran out of gas, they need to call their mother, whatever, whatver. I have had this happen at gas stations and in the parking lot at the grocery store-had had teens and adults do it, so the story sounds plausible.

I have had it happen about 5-6 times and there has always been more than one person doing the asking.

Its a shakedown-most people give because its the easiest way to resolve the situation.

Not me-I had one too many bully want to “borrow” my lunch money when I was just a wee lad.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Was that the Christian in you talking? [/quote]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

Want to try something fun? Turn the tables. Tell them to give you a dollar.
Turn on them realy quickly say “NO, You give ME a dollar Motherfucker!”, and start balling up your fists as you move your hands into a position to punch. You probably won’t get any money, but the look on their face is priceless.

Serious answer call the cops and report it. If he does something they will no who to go after.

Best way to defend against a knife is with a gun.

What would I do…drive away, then call the cops. It’s meaningless violence I wouldn’t kill over money. You can always get more.

It happened to me once also. The gangster situation here is pretty bad too, but most of them are just some punk kid wannabes and don’t belong to any real triads. I did the smart thing and handed him my wallet. And just when he was about to reach out and take it, I dropped it on the floor grabbed his wrist and flipped the mother fucker over so hard I think his arm broke. But, I have a 1st dan in aikido, so maybe that helped.