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Thoughts on My Supplement Mix?


#1

Right now I'm happy with my diet and training because I've been gaining muscle and strength, and getting a little leaner. I had been really into supplements, but then for a long time I was considering going on a ph cycle. I'm 17, so I decided I wanted to wait to not mess with my endocrine system.
Like I said I've been growing, but I want to get the most out of my training as possible.
So what do you think about these?

Right upon wake up a drink mix of
D-Aspartic Acid and L-Carnitine
Some other time on an empty stomach or with the morning drink mix
Yohimbine HCL and Nettle Root
Through the day I'm going to drink a gallon jug that I'll have Creatine Monohydrate in.
Anything I should take out, move around, or, if that amazing, add?
Any help is appreciated, thanks!


#2

Well, depending on your current training level (beginner, intermediate, advanced, etc...) I'm not sure that you need anything but the creatine.

What are your goals? What's your weight? Gym lifts?


#3

Well currently my goal is to finish up my cut, but that's not what I want the supplements for.
I'm 5'8-ish, 165-70 pounds, and 9-10% body fat. Been training 3 years.
Here are my maxes roughly
Deads- 385-400 Parallel Squat- 400 Bench- 230-40
I work deads, squats, military, bench, or arms in the morning. For the cut I've been adding snatch, cleans, and dumbbell swings in the evening. I'm going to keep the second workout because I feel it's helping me with explosiveness and when carbs are reintroduced as a large roll in my diet I could see some muscle growth coming from them.
So my goal for when I'm out of the cut is to primarily add muscle mass, and secondary goal is add strength.
With these supplements I was looking to increase a bit of test, recovery, and gh.


#4

You're 17 brah... not to sound like a dickhead, but why bother with supplements right now? Your body is still growing. Most of your bodily systems aren't even fully matured and you want to take stuff that could possibly alter them?

Yeah all the stuff you listed is considered "safe" (for adults anyway). At 17, your recovery is top notch and you can handle pretty much anything you throw at your body, why bother with supplements? Take advantage of this time and lift hard. Invest that money into quality food sources, protein powder, and maybe creatine.

You want to increase test and recovery and GH? Get plenty of quality sleep (pitch black room is best), eat a healthy, balanced diet with plenty of protein, healthy fat and carbohydrates.

Anyway, if you're taking creatine, I would avoid putting it in a gallon jug, and I would just down it with a smaller amount of liquid, assuming you're taking monohydrate. Creatine monohydrate can degrade over time once moisture is added to it.


#5

I know what you're saying, but I want to get my body into top shape before the next Arnold Classic, I'm thinking of competing.
I know I have a while, but still I want to get the most out of my training, so I'll be able to be the best I can be by then.


#6

Sorry for the obvious, but what does your diet look like?


#7

You dont need any supplements at age 17 - but if you do take something, creatine is enough.

Dont make a jug of creatine mix. You must drink it as soon as you mix as it breaks down into useless creatinine if you leave it mixed for too long.

Add in 4 or 5 meal replacement shakes a day - that will do more for gains than supplements at age 17 (or at any age for that matter). And then adjust your calories to keep your BF% in check - depending on what % you're happy with.

good luck. keep it simple


#8

Here is a little about my diet.
Well right now since I'm cutting I have a two day split. A day where I only eat at the most 26g of carbs that slip in from shakes and meat, and around 55-65 grams of fat from unrefined coconut oil, olive oil, and what is in the meats. The other day I eat one or two carb meals, and the other meals are still only protein and fat. I try to eat at least 6 meals a day to keep my metabolism high.

My protein total for either day is at least 250g and sometimes over 300g. I used to eat too much protein, so I'm trying to cut back, but I'm stuck in the habit of trying to always get over 300 grams.
I'm trying to keep the fats high to keep my test high to help with the cut. Also I need energy.
I'm drinking over a gallon of water a day.

Lots of coffee too, for the caffeine and antioxidants.
After the cut I'm going to reintroduce carbs and have about 4 out of my 6 meals including carbs, but I'll judge that when the time comes.

That is very interesting about the creatine breakdown, thanks dude.