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Thoughts About Quitting Lifting

Allright. First where am I now. I’m down to 95kg starting to have some definition,managing on little nutrition (hypothyroid condition too). Strength is OK I guess.

Much earlier I used to do some elementary contortion stuff. I never had unusual talent for it,just a tiny bit above the average guy. I kept retaining a bit when I started lifts and eventually gave in. I recently started doing it again for some reason. It is time consuming so it’s really hard to find motivation and energy for lifting. I’d say it’s much harder,far more painful (yet more natural) than lifting. Stretching muscles increases their length and lifting shortens them.

I don’t really find myself liking lifting,I just like the results,if any. I think people are intimidated into lifting because of the media images and also the attitudes of the fellow lifting community once they get there. A fair few of them have the attitude (not unlike some martial artists) that they are doing a ‘man’s’ sport and that puts them above the rest. That their idea of a good physique is the true measuring stick.

I wonder how many of them have inferiority complexes. Of course this is pure human nature,dominance psychology and those doing something else will also look down on lifters in their own way,though they may not be as vocal about it. But ultimately the lifting pride comes down to manhandling other people,which is sort of understandable from an evolutionary perspective,as we can assume there was a time when that ability or the means were more important than the ability to play badminton very well for example.

I suppose we are not at the level where we can ever escape the unconcious temptation of those influences. And when I said ‘pride’ I meant the smug kind. I think everyone should be proud of whatever success they make in hitting larger numbers or edging closer to the kind of physique they want.

When people shrink,the compliments and the hard image start to fall off,and larger fellow people will be giving them smug,proud faces over feeling dominant. So in a sense being skinny is the hard or brave thing,not being large.

Cons are:
-the nagging little injuries and aches that will easily crop up during the lifting career. You can say that these or those athletes have more injuries but that’s basically talking about accidents,while higher level lifting (for strength anyway) is all about getting into a risky position.

-the loss of flexibility. This may have been exaggerated by some but there is no reason to believe that it would not affect it at all. You can work around it but that just takes much more time and effort.

-the increasing strain,exhaustion and limits (as in sports performance) of carrying abnormally high body weight.

Well after reading that I would say quit.

Join the ranks of the non lifting folks. There are more of them anyway.

Lifting weights is not for everybody.

All people do not do things purely for accolades and recognition. A lot of people do things like weight lifting because they like to and all that goes with it.

The clank of the iron, the challenging of ones self, the fellowship of other lifters, the feeling of working your body hard. The results and accomplishments along the way of meeting your goals. There are many more reasons that people lift weights than just wanting people to notice them.

If what somebody else thinks is your only motivation, it will probably not be enough to keep you going through the inevitable slumps.

Well, as far as the cons go, little injuries are to be expected from living life. If you’re going to quit lifting because of it, I suppose its just not for you.
Flexibility? I’ve gained it since I started lifting. Especially in my lower body, using longer ranges of motion has helped me become more flexible. I swam all through high school, and as a result most of my upper body was very flexible to begin with, but not as much the lower half. It really depends on what you start with.

The last point is again a personal preference. Some people probably prefer carrying around alot of muscle. Ask a body builder if their sports performance is hurt by being bigger than they were the year before, I’ll bet they tell you no.

Whatever the deep down hidden reasons for it, it makes no difference to me.

It is what it is. I am who I am. I like to be big and strong not because I want to be an ass or intimidate people. But because I don’t like to be messed with.

Nothing says don’t fuck with me like an imposing physical appearance. Or at least having the appearance of someone who can take care of himself.

Life is not all roses, it can be dangerous and unfair. There are people out there who will try to push you around. All the mental gymnastics and arguments are not going to change that. If you are weak mentally or physically you are going to be taken advantage of at some point.

If you want to control your world and promote your interests you are going to need some form of power to project. Be it physical or mental or both.

If you are a man don’t be a puss. This world needs men to be good men. To stand up for what is right, maintain peace and order, defend the defenseless, procreate, and teach the younger generation how to carry on the ideals of past generations.

Nature made you a man for a reason, embrace it, accept it, step up do your part. Lift weights get big and strong and kick ass when needed.

Well, maybe you have done it for the wrong reasons. Personally, my own appereance, you can’t tell whether I work out in a gym, play hockey, or some other sport, study martial arts, etc. Why do I do it? I like being bigger for sure, I like being stronger, I feel better about myself, it releases a lot of stress. With that comes better sleep, better sense of self, better libido, my clothes fit better, I really enjoy the challenge. I’m a physics student in college, I used to ice climb and rock climb, I don’t have time for that any more. Plus, I had to have surgery because of it… It’s all about perspective.

All of your cons, well can be alleviated or missed all together. If you want to live your life scared out from injury, then by all means sit on your ass… make more room for the rest who want to take a calculated risk somehow. I am 5’9" at 170, healthy, no high body weight lugging around… I am an average guy physically, but not mentally, and that is what sets me apart from others. I can achieve things that most can’t, I’ve done it in other things, training is just a new challenege. You need to find something else to do, I hear the prices on the PS3 have came down substantially.

No one cares whether you like lifting weights or grabbing your ankles. Do whatever the hell you want.

[quote]Alffi wrote:
Allright. First where am I now. I’m down to 95kg starting to have some definition,managing on little nutrition (hypothyroid condition too). Strength is OK I guess.

Much earlier I used to do some elementary contortion stuff. I never had unusual talent for it,just a tiny bit above the average guy. I kept retaining a bit when I started lifts and eventually gave in. I recently started doing it again for some reason. It is time consuming so it’s really hard to find motivation and energy for lifting. I’d say it’s much harder,far more painful (yet more natural) than lifting. Stretching muscles increases their length and lifting shortens them.

I don’t really find myself liking lifting,I just like the results,if any. I think people are intimidated into lifting because of the media images and also the attitudes of the fellow lifting community once they get there. A fair few of them have the attitude (not unlike some martial artists) that they are doing a ‘man’s’ sport and that puts them above the rest. That their idea of a good physique is the true measuring stick. I wonder how many of them have inferiority complexes. Of course this is pure human nature,dominance psychology and those doing something else will also look down on lifters in their own way,though they may not be as vocal about it. But ultimately the lifting pride comes down to manhandling other people,which is sort of understandable from an evolutionary perspective,as we can assume there was a time when that ability or the means were more important than the ability to play badminton very well for example. I suppose we are not at the level where we can ever escape the unconcious temptation of those influences. And when I said ‘pride’ I meant the smug kind. I think everyone should be proud of whatever success they make in hitting larger numbers or edging closer to the kind of physique they want.
When people shrink,the compliments and the hard image start to fall off,and larger fellow people will be giving them smug,proud faces over feeling dominant. So in a sense being skinny is the hard or brave thing,not being large.

Cons are:
-the nagging little injuries and aches that will easily crop up during the lifting career. You can say that these or those athletes have more injuries but that’s basically talking about accidents,while higher level lifting (for strength anyway) is all about getting into a risky position.
-the loss of flexibility. This may have been exaggerated by some but there is no reason to believe that it would not affect it at all. You can work around it but that just takes much more time and effort.
-the increasing strain,exhaustion and limits (as in sports performance) of carrying abnormally high body weight. [/quote]

Personally, I am unable to relate to anything in your post other than the injury part. You and I have polar opposite views on lifting.

It looks to me that your passion is towards other activities, and you should be focusing your energy towards them, and dropping the lifting. Like Its all u said, it’s not for everybody. It won’t make you less of a man by quitting lifting.

I think you started lifting weights for all the wrong reasons. Even though I don’t know what they were.

Reasons for lifting weights:

1./ To get huge, build an awesome physique.

2./ To assist one with their choosen sport.

3./ To maintain a healthy body, weight baring exercises are necessary.

The Pro’s

Create the physique you want.

Increased posture for life.

Great selfesteem.

Greater strength and conditioning.

Assist with job or given sport.

To prevent injuries.

Increased energy levels.

To be strong and powerful with the physical and mental ability to achieve evereything.

If you quit lifting, the day will come when you question your own stupidity. Your reasons for quitting are totally lame. I know lots of lifters with amazing flexiblity.

When one increases muscle mass they must also work on their flexibility. I stretch multiple time a day. Unlike some lifters that don’t like stretching. My choosen sport demands that I maintain my flexibility. If I don’t I will continuously injure myself.

Quess what, lifting weights does not mean you have to be bigger than you want to be. The choice is yours. I would put some more thought into this decision if I was you. Although you can always get back anything you should lose.

One day in the future you will notice your abilities have deminished. Your health was gone into the toilet. And you’re just some ordinary unhealthy weak pathetic and average loser.

[quote]Travacolypse wrote:
No one cares whether you like lifting weights or grabbing your ankles. Do whatever the hell you want.[/quote]

You beat me to it.

Who gives a fuck?

[quote]streamline wrote:
I think you started lifting weights for all the wrong reasons. Even though I don’t know what they were.

Reasons for lifting weights:

1./ To get huge, build an awesome physique.

2./ To assist one with their choosen sport.

3./ To maintain a healthy body, weight baring exercises are necessary.

The Pro’s

Create the physique you want.

Increased posture for life.

Great selfesteem.

Greater strength and conditioning.

Assist with job or given sport.

To prevent injuries.

Increased energy levels.

To be strong and powerful with the physical and mental ability to achieve evereything.

If you quit lifting, the day will come when you question your own stupidity. Your reasons for quitting are totally lame. I know lots of lifters with amazing flexiblity.

When one increases muscle mass they must also work on their flexibility. I stretch multiple time a day. Unlike some lifters that don’t like stretching. My choosen sport demands that I maintain my flexibility. If I don’t I will continuously injure myself.

Quess what, lifting weights does not mean you have to be bigger than you want to be. The choice is yours. I would put some more thought into this decision if I was you. Although you can always get back anything you should lose.

One day in the future you will notice your abilities have deminished. Your health was gone into the toilet. And you’re just some ordinary unhealthy weak pathetic and average loser.[/quote]

You know there’s a difference between outstanding flexibility and passable kind. The former requires up to hours of daily training. Second,you sound like the kind of guy who thinks some olympic winning marathon runner is pathetic for not being muscular and strong.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Travacolypse wrote:
No one cares whether you like lifting weights or grabbing your ankles. Do whatever the hell you want.

You beat me to it.

Who gives a fuck?[/quote]

Agreed.

I’m giving up Tequila.

I agree with others on here…bottom line is, why would anyone do something they don’t like? Whether it benefits health or not, if you don’t like it, don’t do it.

Why are you telling us this?

Are you actually just looking for some motivation?

Hell of a New Year’s Resolution.

“I intend to be slower, fatter and lazier then I was last year”.

[quote]-ironman- wrote:
Why are you telling us this?

Are you actually just looking for some motivation?[/quote]
I’m just being philosophical. Maybe arousing some discussion about the merits of this.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Travacolypse wrote:
No one cares whether you like lifting weights or grabbing your ankles. Do whatever the hell you want.

You beat me to it.

Who gives a fuck?

Agreed.

I’m giving up Tequila.[/quote]

I had six chicken tacos and two pieces of cake for dinner last night.

[quote]Alffi wrote:
streamline wrote:
I think you started lifting weights for all the wrong reasons. Even though I don’t know what they were.

Reasons for lifting weights:

1./ To get huge, build an awesome physique.

2./ To assist one with their choosen sport.

3./ To maintain a healthy body, weight baring exercises are necessary.

The Pro’s

Create the physique you want.

Increased posture for life.

Great selfesteem.

Greater strength and conditioning.

Assist with job or given sport.

To prevent injuries.

Increased energy levels.

To be strong and powerful with the physical and mental ability to achieve evereything.

If you quit lifting, the day will come when you question your own stupidity. Your reasons for quitting are totally lame. I know lots of lifters with amazing flexiblity.

When one increases muscle mass they must also work on their flexibility. I stretch multiple time a day. Unlike some lifters that don’t like stretching. My choosen sport demands that I maintain my flexibility. If I don’t I will continuously injure myself.

Quess what, lifting weights does not mean you have to be bigger than you want to be. The choice is yours. I would put some more thought into this decision if I was you. Although you can always get back anything you should lose.

One day in the future you will notice your abilities have deminished. Your health was gone into the toilet. And you’re just some ordinary unhealthy weak pathetic and average loser.
You know there’s a difference between outstanding flexibility and passable kind. The former requires up to hours of daily training. Second,you sound like the kind of guy who thinks some olympic winning marathon runner is pathetic for not being muscular and strong.
[/quote]

Ummmm, not necessarily. Thomas Kurtz (Stretching Scintifically) actually recommends squats, etc for increasing flexibility over continued static stretching for hours on end. Just a thought…

Als for your “dilemma”, if you don’t like it, don’t do it. As for any repercussions from your decision, well, you’re a big boy and I’m sure you can handle them.

[quote]duffyj2 wrote:
Hell of a New Year’s Resolution.

“I intend to be slower, fatter and lazier then I was last year”.[/quote]

Yes, but more flexible. Perhaps self fellatio is his real unspoken goal.

If getting bigger and stronger doesn’t appeal to you, i suggest going to Thai Land they appreciate Lady Boys there.

[quote]Its All U wrote:
duffyj2 wrote:
Hell of a New Year’s Resolution.

“I intend to be slower, fatter and lazier then I was last year”.

Yes, but more flexible. Perhaps self fellatio is his real unspoken goal.
[/quote]

I know it’s mine.

I can’t wait.