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This Newbs Initial Thoughts....

Please let me know if I’m headed in the right direction.

  1. Many if not most men ages 35+ can benefit from HRT.

  2. Your regular DR. is probably not going to get on board unless you are really, really suffering from extremely low T.

  3. You should look to a local compounding pharmacy and try to find progressive docs that are believers in HRT. These types of docs will likely be covered by your medical insurance.

  4. If all else fails contact one of the online anti-aging groups and they will find one of their docs and one of their pharmacies. Getting treatment is almost a surething but it will be very EXPENSIVE.

  5. HRT is just trying to get your T levels up to the upper range…maybe like your prime years when you were in your mid 20’s. Steriod use/abuse is trying to get your T to an unnatural super elevated level.

  6. KSman is pretty freaking smart when it comes to HRT.

Am I right?

not sure.

  1. Is there a problem with men’s health and overall T levels? probably, but to what level, I don’t know.

  2. yes, 99% of doctor’s are clueless about just about everything including HRT - and most are scared of trying anything

  3. Local compounding pharmacies are a good start. A number of ‘good’ doctors don’t accept insurance… a number of ‘bad’ doctors also don’t accept insurance.

  4. anti-aging doctors might be able to help, but are generally more expensive.

  5. true. most are on 100mg T-Cyp weekly in divided doses to mimic natural production levels of youth.

  6. true.

Sounds like a good perspective.

Haha, you just like #6, don’t ya?

[quote]KSman wrote:
Sounds like a good perspective.[/quote]

When in doubt DR O takes many insurances :), but alot of other dr’s do not …

Seems like the insurance companies will push docs who get into a lot of hormone work out of the plans because they are increasing the “losses” for the insurance companies. TRT/HRT is a lifelong loss for the insurance companies.

Yep. Great point. I think it also depends on your region and demographics. Insurance comps make money by having healthier people pay for insurance.

[quote]KSman wrote:
Seems like the insurance companies will push docs who get into a lot of hormone work out of the plans because they are increasing the “losses” for the insurance companies. TRT/HRT is a lifelong loss for the insurance companies.[/quote]

[quote]KSman wrote:
Seems like the insurance companies will push docs who get into a lot of hormone work out of the plans because they are increasing the “losses” for the insurance companies. TRT/HRT is a lifelong loss for the insurance companies.[/quote]

Which is a shame that the insurance companies are so short sighted. They can pay the rather small costs up front for T-Replacement and other hormone medications, or pay the price for the debilitating diseases and issues they cause later down the line otherwise (diabetes, heart disease, blood pressure, viagara, anti-depressants, etc.).

True story: I’m flat footed and insurance won’t pay for my $200/year orthotic inserts (which they could probably get a discount on), but would gladly pay multiple thousands of dollars for surgery and recovery later down the line. Brilliant.

They can do delayed maintenance then drop you into medicare.