[quote]Varqanir wrote:
snipeout wrote:
Let’s not try and take your gun though. Right? You have a right to bear arms, but this baby, born alive, did not have a right to life. The baby was delvered not aborted, they then cut the umbilical cord and placed the live baby in a biohazard bag and threw her away.
If you took the time to read what I wrote, you would see that my line of thought has to do with these people and their lack of respect for life. The abortion crowd does not respect life unless it is their own. Why exactly did this baby that was born alive, that had a 30% chance of living deserve to die.
If your doctor called tomorrow and said you had melanoma and that you only had a 30% survival rate what would your reaction be? What if he told you that since it was only a 30% chance he wasn’t going to bother treating you because the cost per pound of bodyweight was outlandish. Gee, that sounds logical!
Snipe, calm down before you hurt yourself.
If you had taken the time to read and understand what I had written, you might have gathered that I was not arguing in favor of abortion, nor claiming that this or any baby did not have the “right to life”.
Rather, I was stating that whether this particular baby had been born in a hospital, in an abortion clinic, or in an alley, the result would have been the same. One dead baby.
I am not claiming that it is a desirable situation, nor that the baby deserved what it got. Simply that premature babies die all the time, that nobody in this case could have done much to prevent it from happening, and that abortion being right, wrong, legal or illegal makes not a dime’s worth of difference.
In the case of me being critically ill with malignant cancer, with only a 30% probability of survival, I can assure you that in the absence of either medical insurance or the required quarter of a million dollars to pay for chemotherapy, radiation therapy,
Bone marrow transplants, and outpatient care, may chances of finding a doctor who would perform all this for me pro bono are about that of the proverbial infernal snowflake.
I would, in short, die. I wouldn’t be particularly happy about it, but that’s the way it is. If some big-hearted charitable organization or philanthropist wanted to kick up some coin to same my poor cancerous ass, I would be most grateful. But I wouldn’t count on it.
But back to the topic at hand. You know what triage is, right? It’s the process of prioritizing patients based on the severity of their condition. Doctors can’t save everyone, so they allocate their resources primarily on those who have the best chance of survival. Unfortunately, in our country, in many cases, this also means those who have the means to pay for it.
Unless you are personally willing to foot the bill for neonatal care for every impoverished inner city woman who delivers an extremely premature infant, or know someone who would be willing to do so, your respect for the lives of these babies is not going to result in their not ending up dead.[/quote]
In an alley versus in a doctors office are 2 different things. Criminal charges can be filed for a patient dieing in a waiting room without any care. Criminal charges cannot be filed if they die in an alley. ERs are forced to at least stabilize even the uninsured.
The doctor by being licensed and agreeing to preform the surgery had additional responsibilities that the normal citizen does not. Period. You cannot equate his responsibilities (financially or otherwise) to the child to you or me.
Part of those responsibilities, to me, would include infant care in the event of a botched surgery, the same way he would be required to provide care for the mother if something went wrong.
