This Guy's 'Theory' on Steroid Use

[Loudog75]

oh Shit, you can die from too much vagoo???

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

I suppose ultimately it depends on the value placed on muscle size and strength. [/quote]

Yeah, pretty much. Along with what it means to you to get there.

I personally just find it silly that some one would be so vain, not an attack, that they would honestly risk wrecking their bodies to get a few more inches or 50 more lbs. when their efforts don’t take them anywhere other than in front of their own mirror.

No offense taken.

Is it vanity? Maybe… I wouldn’t be surprised. I can’t even really describe why I want “it” so bad, I just do. I suppose I’m vain. I dont’ really have a problem with that, though, haha.

And yeah, lol, a whole lot of us are fucking retarded for dong to ourselves what we do. There was a thread about this a couple weeks ago. I mean I ‘enjoy’ this, but it is a bitch. I mean, I drive myself into the fucking ground, drop a nut and nearly pass out for one more fucking rep, just one, or 10 more lbs on the bar.

Is that even sane? Doubt it, lol. But I know it feels right to do it.

I’m assuming by your post you are not using, because your desire to protect your family and job outweigh your desire for easy gains. This is the line of thinking I’m discussing… the risk outweighs the reward for a random dude who just happens to like lifting, imo.

It is for me yeah. Teh risk is too high. But shit, if I was 25 and single, that thought wouldn’t ever cross my mind. I’d be superman.

What I’m talking about, and what I believe the video alluded to, is shooting test levels sky high, way out of the norm and putting the body at risk for some very major complications, not just a doctor monitored, high end of the spectrum maintenence level.

Excess of pretty much anything will kill you. Maybe even vagoo.

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[Ct_Rockula]

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
To feel like superman again… I can’t tell you what I would give to recover like I was 28 again, let alone 22, let alone 18 or better.
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I’d pour that shit on my pancakes, in my coffee, and on my dick if it were made legally readily available to me.[/quote]

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I’m saying… [/quote]

I hate being old too man.

it sucks, I work out and never feel it the next day.

[Loudog75]

^^Derek, your in the med prof - is it true? Say it aint so.

[Derek542]

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

oh Shit, you can die from too much vagoo???

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

I suppose ultimately it depends on the value placed on muscle size and strength. [/quote]

Yeah, pretty much. Along with what it means to you to get there.

I personally just find it silly that some one would be so vain, not an attack, that they would honestly risk wrecking their bodies to get a few more inches or 50 more lbs. when their efforts don’t take them anywhere other than in front of their own mirror.

No offense taken.

Is it vanity? Maybe… I wouldn’t be surprised. I can’t even really describe why I want “it” so bad, I just do. I suppose I’m vain. I dont’ really have a problem with that, though, haha.

And yeah, lol, a whole lot of us are fucking retarded for dong to ourselves what we do. There was a thread about this a couple weeks ago. I mean I ‘enjoy’ this, but it is a bitch. I mean, I drive myself into the fucking ground, drop a nut and nearly pass out for one more fucking rep, just one, or 10 more lbs on the bar.

Is that even sane? Doubt it, lol. But I know it feels right to do it.

I’m assuming by your post you are not using, because your desire to protect your family and job outweigh your desire for easy gains. This is the line of thinking I’m discussing… the risk outweighs the reward for a random dude who just happens to like lifting, imo.

It is for me yeah. Teh risk is too high. But shit, if I was 25 and single, that thought wouldn’t ever cross my mind. I’d be superman.

What I’m talking about, and what I believe the video alluded to, is shooting test levels sky high, way out of the norm and putting the body at risk for some very major complications, not just a doctor monitored, high end of the spectrum maintenence level.

Excess of pretty much anything will kill you. Maybe even vagoo.

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John Holmes

[Derek542]

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
^^Derek, your in the med prof - is it true? Say it aint so.[/quote]

Statistical proof that Women outlive men.

Why? They kill us with the Vag, some slow some fast, but in the end they kill our ass.

[HoustonGuy]

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

I suppose ultimately it depends on the value placed on muscle size and strength. [/quote]

Yeah, pretty much. Along with what it means to you to get there.

I personally just find it silly that some one would be so vain, not an attack, that they would honestly risk wrecking their bodies to get a few more inches or 50 more lbs. when their efforts don’t take them anywhere other than in front of their own mirror.

No offense taken.

Is it vanity? Maybe… I wouldn’t be surprised. I can’t even really describe why I want “it” so bad, I just do. I suppose I’m vain. I dont’ really have a problem with that, though, haha.

And yeah, lol, a whole lot of us are fucking retarded for dong to ourselves what we do. There was a thread about this a couple weeks ago. I mean I ‘enjoy’ this, but it is a bitch. I mean, I drive myself into the fucking ground, drop a nut and nearly pass out for one more fucking rep, just one, or 10 more lbs on the bar.

Is that even sane? Doubt it, lol. But I know it feels right to do it.

I’m assuming by your post you are not using, because your desire to protect your family and job outweigh your desire for easy gains. This is the line of thinking I’m discussing… the risk outweighs the reward for a random dude who just happens to like lifting, imo.

It is for me yeah. Teh risk is too high. But shit, if I was 25 and single, that thought wouldn’t ever cross my mind. I’d be superman.

What I’m talking about, and what I believe the video alluded to, is shooting test levels sky high, way out of the norm and putting the body at risk for some very major complications, not just a doctor monitored, high end of the spectrum maintenence level.

Excess of pretty much anything will kill you. Maybe even vagoo.

edit: fucked up teh quotes
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Not to be taken the wrong way but one definition of vanity is “lack of real value; hollowness; worthlessness: the vanity of a selfish life.”

With out a multi-million dollar sports or sponsorship contract, using steroids to push just a little harder fits that description except maybe the selfish life. Unless of course one did risk their career and families well being for an extra inch on the bicep.

That’s not to say accomplishing goals isn’t a worthwile endeavour in the gym, in business, in home life or where ever. Personally I am a hugely goal driven and competitive guy in my real life.

A guy can get stronger, faster, bigger and accomplish physical transformation without steroids and frankly, in my personal opinion, doing it with steroids cheapens the goal, if it’s just personal satisfaction being sought. It’s like beating a video game with cheat codes. Fun maybe but you get my drift.

Just my opinion though, not hating juicers, have honestly considered it lately. And if I was in the running for pro contract in any sport, I would have needles in my ass so fast Flash couldn’t stop me. And I do use supplements so again it just boils down to risk vs. reward, as anything does. We seem to agree overall.

[Loudog75]

Yeah, 80’s chicks would kill me too. What were they thinking with the hair makeup etc…?

Was it a fatal loss in blood pressure or physical exhaustion? If the latter, he just wasn’t smart, let the womenz do the work. lol

[ashylarryku]

Did not watch video, but I already know that I like this one better

Do Steroids!

[gregron]

^^hahaha I like it

[2busy]

How many of us already take supplements to aid our development?

[HoustonGuy]

Let the ball have steroids!!!

[four60]

[quote]ashylarryku wrote:
Did not watch video, but I already know that I like this one better

Do Steroids!

THIS.

LOVE IT

[countingbeans]

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

Not to be taken the wrong way but one definition of vanity is “lack of real value; hollowness; worthlessness: the vanity of a selfish life.”[/quote]

I’m not vain then. But lifting is certainly a selfish endeavor for me though, I can admit that.

Shit half the fun is “wearing” your results for all to see, and knowing no one can take that shit away from you. No one can belittle what you’ve accomplished. You did it, by yourself, for yourself, and ain’t a motherfucker going to take my blood, pain and balls away from me.

[quote]
A guy can get stronger, faster, bigger and accomplish physical transformation without steroids and frankly, in my personal opinion, doing it with steroids cheapens the goal, if it’s just personal satisfaction being sought. It’s like beating a video game with cheat codes. Fun maybe but you get my drift.[/quote]

Fair enough. I mean it isn’t like that opinion is out of left field. And it is one that you have to think about, but only when it comes from someone that lifts. If Sally Fatass at the office said that I would mention how she is a fat shit and should fuck off and die of consumption, but from a lifter, fine.

I personally don’t see it that way, outside of an assisted guy competing against nattys and claiming he is natty. But I don’t think either of us are ‘wrong’ about it, just see different shades of grey.

We seem to agree overall.

Sort of surprised, but yeah

[HoustonGuy]

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

Not to be taken the wrong way but one definition of vanity is “lack of real value; hollowness; worthlessness: the vanity of a selfish life.”[/quote]

I’m not vain then. But lifting is certainly a selfish endeavor for me though, I can admit that.

Shit half the fun is “wearing” your results for all to see, and knowing no one can take that shit away from you. No one can belittle what you’ve accomplished. You did it, by yourself, for yourself, and ain’t a motherfucker going to take my blood, pain and balls away from me.

[quote]
A guy can get stronger, faster, bigger and accomplish physical transformation without steroids and frankly, in my personal opinion, doing it with steroids cheapens the goal, if it’s just personal satisfaction being sought. It’s like beating a video game with cheat codes. Fun maybe but you get my drift.[/quote]

Fair enough. I mean it isn’t like that opinion is out of left field. And it is one that you have to think about, but only when it comes from someone that lifts. If Sally Fatass at the office said that I would mention how she is a fat shit and should fuck off and die of consumption, but from a lifter, fine.

I personally don’t see it that way, outside of an assisted guy competing against nattys and claiming he is natty. But I don’t think either of us are ‘wrong’ about it, just see different shades of grey.

We seem to agree overall.

Sort of surprised, but yeah ;)[/quote]
i totally agree with your view on lifting rewards and it applies to everything built with deliberate effort. Doesn’t really have much to do with 'roids specifically though, especially since my grey shade is that using for no other reason than personal satisfaction is like beating a game with codes, as a general comment.

I see your wink but one topic doesn’t carry over to another. Videogames are one thing, steroids totally another.

Anyways, it’s all risk vs. reward, which ever side a person is on.

Didn’t understand the suzie fat ass comment but I think we are on the same page.

So at this point my posts will become circular it seems. I’ll be back when flaming and e-one upping begin.

Lataz!

And, for the record, at some point I will be on TRT just like I play madden sometimes.

The reward of keeping hard earned muscle, youth and boner ability will outweigh risk as I age. Plus i’ll do it through a doctor.

[SteelyD]

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
To feel like superman again… I can’t tell you what I would give to recover like I was 28 again, let alone 22, let alone 18 or better.
[/quote]

I’d pour that shit on my pancakes, in my coffee, and on my dick if it were made legally readily available to me.[/quote]

Fixed[/quote]

No, DJ, that was a plea…

[SteelyD]

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
… I work out …[/quote]

BAH HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAA !!

[Derek542]

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
Yeah, 80’s chicks would kill me too. What were they thinking with the hair makeup etc…?

Was it a fatal loss in blood pressure or physical exhaustion? If the latter, he just wasn’t smart, let the womenz do the work. lol[/quote]

He died from the AIDS and that is all I am going to say about that.

I like 80’s chicks, that was the time when I lost the big V so kind of a turn on.

[SteelyD]

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I like 80’s chicks [/quote]

Love 80’s chicks.

Well, maybe I just love chicks in denim ‘n leather (or out of denim n’ leather)

[Derek542]

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I like 80’s chicks [/quote]

Love 80’s chicks.

Well, maybe I just love chicks in denim ‘n leather (or out of denim n’ leather)[/quote]

Remember the thongs were like REAL high on the hips.

[SteelyD]

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I like 80’s chicks [/quote]

Love 80’s chicks.

Well, maybe I just love chicks in denim ‘n leather (or out of denim n’ leather)[/quote]

Remember the thongs were like REAL high on the hips.[/quote]

They were like suspenders.