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Third Cycle


I am torn between bulking and cutting, so ill post both cycles to have them critiqued.


weeks 1-8 test prop 2100mg with ED shots
weeks 4-beginning of pct dbol 50mg ED

Adex .5mg Eod

Pct 3 days after last shot nolva 40/40/20/20


Weeks 1-8 test prop 150mg with ED shots
Weeks 1-8 tren ace 700mg with ED shots
Weeks 4-beginning of pct winstrol 50mg ED

Caber .5mg 2x a week
Adex .25mg e3d

Pct 3 days after last shot nolva 40/40/20/20


Is .5 mg adex eod going to be enough with that much test + dbol?

And why not just run a lower dose a little bit longer? I've never run that much, but I've read countless times that the additional gains vs additional side effects ratio really drops off after ~1 gram a week.


you are probably right on all counts. I am actually leaning toward my cutting cycle now that I have given it more thought. What would you change about that?

I am currently running about 700-800mg of tren a week with very low test..and virtually no side effects except night sweats and my cardio has gone to shit. I really like the results I am getting, I just would like to know if there is anything anyone would add to it.


I know someone who did a low test, high tren/mast cycle and really liked it for cutting.


I know of two people who ran 200/500/350 test/tren/mast and loved it.




Personally your "cutting" cycle looks like a good bulker to me with that much tren in there. Lol at the reaponses. I really think it's a good one--mast instead of winny.


I would exchange winstrol with masteron but the winstrol is just so much cheaper...

I ran 525 of test tren and masteron P, and really prefer what I am running now to it.. (this is my first time using tren btw)


what does everyone think of TNE?