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[quote]PB Andy wrote:
Iâve taken genetics classes. I donât go around saying I have an âeducation in geneticsâ because it is disingenuous to geneticists.
I donât think some part-time involvement in a study would change that, either.
I just find that whole comment ridiculous. According to you have I have an education in biomechanics, organic chemistry, neuroscience, and so onâŠ[/quote]
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[quote]gregron wrote:
Whatâs up with the posts in this thread? They keep appearing and disappearing?[/quote]
Take a wild guess.
LOl at the same posters each and every time.
Who wants to bet that all this would amazingly stop if gregron, Utahlama and Supersaiyan werenât literally following me around the board in every thread in this forum.
Try sticking to the topic. Why so little questioning of where the data for this limit came fromâŠbut all of this concern for anyone who says they did even if pictures show sign of at least that much muscle gained.
You need âunderwater weighingâ to make any claim against it but âestimatesâ are just fine for the alternative.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
LOl at the same posters each and every time.
Who wants to bet that all this would amazingly stop if gregron, Utahlama and Supersaiyan werenât literally following me around the board in every thread in this forum.
Try sticking to the topic. Why so little questioning of where the data for this limit came fromâŠbut all of this concern for anyone who says they did even if pictures show sign of at least that much muscle gained.
You need âunderwater weighingâ to make any claim against it but âestimatesâ are just fine for the alternative.[/quote]
Not following you around. The only thread Iâm even talking to you in us this one and youâve just stopped answering my questions, just like you wonât answer Lankyâs, because you know the answer would look bad for you. Itâs ok though cause everyone else sees that already.
Why donât you try sticking to the topic for once? I know that goes against everything you stand for and would require you to break almost all of your posting rules but try it out for once.
What were your numbers at a not fat 305lbs at 5â10? You know, when the only photo you posted was in almost sheer darkness? I wish I knew where to find that picture for reference.
I was postinf in this thread way before you showed up in it
YOU were the one who quoted me in this thread first and I responded from there.
So whoâs following who around?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Itâs getting retarded. YOU asked about my background [/quote]
Nope, you mentioned your âbackgroundâ, I simply asked if you actually had a genetics degree, as it would be quite impressive, and it seemed that you were trying to give that impression but werenât actually saying as such.
Donât get pissed when people when people actually read what you wrote and respond accordingly. My respect for dentists comes from friends of mine who are not only dentists, but polite, humble, friendly, donât have some background story that is supposed to give the impression that they are an expert on whatever is being discussed at the moment, and that their opinions automatically trump whatever any other intelligent person might suggest.
But hey, thatâs just me and my opinions.
And for the record,⊠bodybuilding competitions are judged on size, symmetry, conditioning etc, BUT genetic gifts such as structure are often overlooked at all but the most top level shows. Kurt Weidner is universally regarded as having a very poor genetic structure, yet is over 200 lbs in the most ripped to shreds condition, and actually won the Universe title despite many much âprettierâ physiques onstage. Anyone truly smashing the boundaries of packing on muscle size, who came in condition, even with wide hips, would be well rewarded by the judges.
(but what do I know,⊠Iâll be sitting behind the judgeâs table at 2 shows next month)
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[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Itâs getting retarded. YOU asked about my background [/quote]
Nope, you mentioned your âbackgroundâ, I simply asked if you actually had a genetics degree, as it would be quite impressive, and it seemed that you were trying to give that impression but werenât actually saying as such.
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I gave the correct impression. I didnât say âdegreeâ and most of the docs involved with genetics research do not have degrees in âgeneticsâ. It is part of a larger degree.
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Donât get pissed when people when people actually read what you wrote and respond accordingly. My respect for dentists comes from friends of mine who are not only dentists, but polite, humble, friendly, donât have some background story that is supposed to give the impression that they are an expert on whatever is being discussed at the moment, and that their opinions automatically trump whatever any other intelligent person might suggest.
But hey, thatâs just me and my opinions. [/quote]
It is just you and your opinion. That is ALL it is. I am not your friends and unless your friends followed my exact same path through school, them simply being dentists doesnât mean they had the same schooling. I wasnât even planning on going to dental school originally so my background is NOT just geared towards âdentistryâ alone.
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And for the record,⊠bodybuilding competitions are judged on size, symmetry, conditioning etc, BUT genetic gifts such as structure are often overlooked at all but the most top level shows. Kurt Weidner is universally regarded as having a very poor genetic structure, yet is over 200 lbs in the most ripped to shreds condition, and actually won the Universe title despite many much âprettierâ physiques onstage. Anyone truly smashing the boundaries of packing on muscle size, who came in condition, even with wide hips, would be well rewarded by the judges.
(but what do I know,⊠Iâll be sitting behind the judgeâs table at 2 shows next month)
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First, what I have noticed with many natural comps is the greater focus on conditioning. That means some guy could be bigger and still lose. Most do not win if they have bad structure for this like wide hips.
That means, no, once again, natural bodybuilding comps are not just won on sizeâŠwhich is the point I made.
[quote]gregron wrote:
LOLz. Seriously,. The tears are flowing from this response.
It is the same few guys. You all call anyone who dares to agree with me a ânutriderââŠor you claim they are an alternative account of mine to discredit them.
It isnât like everyone here canât see it.
I think X and Gregron should me in the desert. 2 men enter one man leaves. This getting fucking old as shit.
I think Iâve figured out whatâs going on. Professor X is from the future. Heâs on the forums because at some point the future Mr. Olympia will log on to T-Nation, read our discussion about genetic limits, and give up on bodybuilding altogether. Professor X is here to stop that from happening.
He probably wrecked his motorcycle in one of his attempts to hit 88 mph. Iâm pretty sure I saw a thread by him in GAL asking where one would obtain parts if he âtheoreticallyâ wanted to repair a flux capacitor.
So someone decided to narrow the sample size from natural bodybuilders to only natural bodybuilding winners?
LOL
Weird I thought it was Waylander, Bonez, and Stonghold following X around. The names âfollowingâ PX around have suddenly changed, but the man in the middle has not.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
LOLz. Seriously,. The tears are flowing from this response.
It is the same few guys. You all call anyone who dares to agree with me a ânutriderââŠor you claim they are an alternative account of mine to discredit them.
It isnât like everyone here canât see it.[/quote]
Iâve literally never done either of those things. lol
No response to the rest of my post?
How not fat were you at 5â10 305lbs?
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Weird I thought it was Waylander, Bonez, and Stonghold following X around. The names âfollowingâ PX around have suddenly changed, but the man in the middle has not. [/quote]
LOl at the cult mentality. Once again, it is the same guys or the same followers. That is why somehow zraw, after making an entire thread about ignoring me, is still making jabs and the exact same guys are still following me around.
everyone here doesnât even agree with you guys. They are writing as such right here but get ignored.
Maybe some of you should quit the bullshit. Nothing I am writing should be causing all of you to gang up on every response. You just like doing it.
Thatâs all goodâŠbecause what stands out is that you all avoid sticking to the points being made.
once again, why so little focus or critique of the âmeasurementsâ that set this âceiling of muscleâ?
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
This getting fucking old as shit. [/quote]
I agreeâŠbut since they plan to keep it up as if they can run me off the forum, I guess it will continue.
You would think the people commenting on how old it was getting would be listened to.
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Weird I thought it was Waylander, Bonez, and Stonghold following X around. The names âfollowingâ PX around have suddenly changed, but the man in the middle has not. [/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
This getting fucking old as shit. [/quote]
I agreeâŠbut since they plan to keep it up as if they can run me off the forum, I guess it will continue.
You would think the people commenting on how old it was getting would be listened to.[/quote]
You would think the people commenting on how old your crap is getting would be listened to.
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
for the record I took 300 and 400 level genetics in undergrad, as well as did epidemiological research, which is much more relevant to the topic than the bench work you did in genetics. Regardless, for the scope of this topic no one needs anything beyond a cursory knowledge of genetics and population data.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Just to make this point clear, in science and medicine, when discussing topics like this, especially as it refers to large populations, you come up with a RANGE of observable data. I would be very skeptical of the political or emotional motives of any âscientistâ who literally comes out with an exact number that somehow relates to all people unless it is a very extreme number and we are talking about absolutes.
Simply put, this â80lbs limitâ is unsupported and contestedâŠso why keep retelling it?
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lol, well before they come up with a range, there are rounds of research and educated guessing that leads to a hypothesis. I really do value guys like brick, maiden, stu, etc weighing in on this as they have already, and Iâve already qualified why this guessing of a ânatural limitâ of sorts is important to all of us as well and is central to the topic at hand. Youâve already noted that this isnât a worthwhile question to ask, so please you and your trolls bow out.[/quote]
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
everyone here doesnât even agree with you guys. They are writing as such right here but get ignored.
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Everyone doesnât agree with you. They are writing as such right here but get ignored⊠by you.