hey thib ima gonna be starting a clean bulk diet from your nutrition for newbies articles.
http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/diet_performance_nutrition_supplements/carbs_from_green_veggies_do_you_count_them?pageNo=0#2571301
but the thing is that it says to keep carbs under 30grams and Surge PWO will put me over the 30 grams. i love Surge, and i sometimes workout just to drink it, its so good.