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They Will Grow!

Eat mother fucker, You don’t weight enough to have any size anywhere.

[quote]Goodfellow wrote:
Skrussian wrote:
Are your legs REALLY out of proportion with your upper body or do you just want to think that you’re bigger than you are? Post a pic please, and post your diet. Bitching about your legs then posting the “fuck up your knee for life” program as somebody put it without posting your current workout and diet is a shot in the dark my friend.

current workout program for legs is usually something like:
Back squat - build up to 1-2 max sets of 5-6
Romanian deadlift - 4x8
Leg press - 3x10

I do calves usually twice a week on other workout days, using 1 exercise with 4x10.

For upper body I focus on dips, incline work, chin ups, deadlifts and occasional isolation work for shoulders & arms.

Diet is pretty simple, usually the same every day, goes something like:

6-7 eggs with 3 slices of toast for breakfast

3-4 apples as a snack

optimum recovery (60g carb 30g protein) after workout w/ big bowl of chicken & rice

2-3 oranges & yogurt as a snack

more chicken & rice, sometimes steak & rice with big bowl of steamed veg

more fruit as a snack

dinner here (whatever mom cooks) sometimes if i’m out it’s a big mac meal from mcdonalds

then before bed I eat a pot of cottage cheese & 2-3 apples.

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You’re making a good attempt to eat a lot of clean calories. However, you’re eating a lot of filling foods. For example, apples. Are you really eating 7 apples a day? That’s nuts. I love apples too, but apples fill you up, leaving less room for more calorie dense foods.

I would recommend 1 apple, 1 or 2 servings of dried fruit, and 2 glasses of fruit juice a day. Fruit juice is liquid calories, the easiest kind to take in large quantities, and obviously fruit juice is a lot healthier than soda.

Chicken is fine, but you’re going to get tired of chicken. Red meat is great for packing on pounds, it was how our ancestors got creatine before it came out in powder form, and hamburger is cheap and tastey. It doesn’t even have to be that lean either, 80% is fine for you. If you fry a hamburger, you don’t need to grease the pan, and a lot of the fat cooks off. Slap on a couple of slices of cheese and you’re in heaven.

Don’t mind the clean eating jihad. Their advice is written for fat middle aged people, you are still very young, and very skinny. Good eating habits are important, so keep on eating at least 1 or 2 servings of fresh fruit and 2 or 3 vegetables a day, but also, don’t be scared of butter, bacon, whole eggs and the occaisonal pizza or two.

3 and a half plates?

We ALL had to start somewhere.

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That looks complicated. How about you just ut 200+lbs on your squat max and bulk 40lbs.

I don’t think your eating enough protein. I’d stop snaking on apples and snack on sardines chicken eggs and steak. I could never get good results on a diet like yours especially with that ridiculous workout. Never. Maybe if you did a shitload of roids and ate 2 whole chickens with your chicken bowls.

Lee Haney said your in the gym to stimulate muscles not annihilate them. Years ago after some advice I cut down on my sets and had great results. Sometimes less is more.

http://www.leehayward.com/dvd/squats.htm

i think that sums up this thread

[quote]Hagar wrote:
I don’t think your eating enough protein. I’d stop snaking on apples and snack on sardines chicken eggs and steak. I could never get good results on a diet like yours especially with that ridiculous workout. Never. Maybe if you did a shitload of roids and ate 2 whole chickens with your chicken bowls. [/quote]

i get at least 200g protein which i think is enough (50-60g from the eggs, 100-120g from the 2 big portions of chicken i have a day, and about 40g from the pot of cottage cheese)

i’ll make sure to add in some hamburgers and steak, and a few more big mac meals :stuck_out_tongue:

im going to trim down on the upper body trainign in the afternoons, ill split it up to 3 times a week. and cut the sets in half on the quad/hamstring work.

However im keeping volume on calves the same for the 6 days and see if it makes a difference.

[quote]Goodfellow wrote:

and a few more big mac meals :stuck_out_tongue:

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This is what I think every time a smaller guy talks about not being able to make gains.

Can Some one who is bulking realy ask for more than that? Its convenient its packed with protein and carbs and it has alot of calories.

[quote]Goodfellow wrote:
Hagar wrote:

i get at least 200g protein which i think is enough (50-60g from the eggs, 100-120g from the 2 big portions of chicken i have a day, and about 40g from the pot of cottage cheese)

i’ll make sure to add in some hamburgers and steak, and a few more big mac meals :stuck_out_tongue:

im going to trim down on the upper body trainign in the afternoons, ill split it up to 3 times a week. and cut the sets in half on the quad/hamstring work.

However im keeping volume on calves the same for the 6 days and see if it makes a difference.[/quote]

I’d eat more 280g+ pro but still it won’t do shit because of your training philosophy. If your on a ton of AAS than maybe you’ll see some gains from that workout. Your an example of someone who works harder not smarter. I say this not to be an asshole but because I care.