It was released today the Ivanka Trump will be getting a West-Wing Office.
While I understand that the West-Wing is a place for the President’s closest and most trusted advisors; when taken in total… that everyone from “the Media” to Allies to U.S. intelligence are against you…acceptance of conspiracy theories…continued rallies to the faithful…unsubstantiated Tweets even during the process of an important Congressional inquiry…
This list is getting longer by the day. The President is giving out this uncomfortable vibe (to me and others) of someone taking on an almost “siege/bunker” mentality that borders on paranoia.
I would be more than happy to be told that I’m wrong, because this is one area that I hope to be wrong…
(By the way? What Obama may or may not have done is NOT an answer for what we are seeing in Trump).
Ivanka makes a good foil to Trumps personality. That and even if he says that space bugs are attacking his thoughts they can turn the camera to her and she can preen just a tiny bit and everybody forgets what he just said.
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“…Where have you heard it will be more expensive?..”
Premiums for the individual?
Everywhere. This bill appears to do nothing to address this.
Now the projections for reductions overall over 10 years?
Yes…via massive cuts to Medicaid.However; the CBO wonders how much will actually be “saved” as more and more expensive ER care and neglect of serious illnesses increases, mostly among the poor. (Who tend to be the sickest).
The reality of this “difficult medical stuff” is that if you tie-off one bleeder, 3 more open up.
Not on this Planet and not with this Bill…it simply does not address the root causes of cost…and while “lack of competition” is part of the problem…it’s not anywhere near the greatest driver of overall cost.
I’m confused by your view that the bill is “more expensive”. If we stay with Obamacare costs will be X. With this bill they will be .9X. That’s a 10% decrease in costs, regardless of whether X grows due to other factors.
I am not trying to tackle all of Healthcare. I am only repeating what the CBO and other analysis have said regarding its current state. I am confused on your stance that it is “more expensive”. More expensive than what? If doing nothing would increase costs more, and doing this increases costs less, that is a decrease from the status quo even if overall costs go up.
Considering its name being affordable was the exact opposite of what it was, I think thats an understatement.
I’m not saying this is the holy grail. And I’m sure there were plenty of partisan talking points tryign to emphasize how bad Obamacare was. It was Obama’s signature issue, I think he owns the rising premiums and struggling health insurance industry that this new bill is attempting to get under control.
My point is that the current status quo (Obamacare) is not working. This is a step in the right direction. If you had a vote on this bill, would not do it because it doesn’t decrease costs enough (as some conservatives are saying, but without offering an alternative) or because it isn’t offering the same coverage as Obamacare (as liberals are saying)?
Considering the left doesn’t like it and the far right doesn’t like it, I take that as meaning it’s a center-right policy. I will add that I don’t think repeal and doing nothing is an option.
Bingo. The budget simply cost-shifts Medicaid to the states. It’s a Fed budget ‘savings’ in the same way that shifting the cost of funding the Air Force to the states would result in a Fed budget savings.
True, this is the projection. But it reflects the fact that coverage will be so expensive for older folks and those with chronic illnesses that such individuals will not purchase it. Hence, the population of the insured will shift toward those who are younger and healthier. Given this, it is not surprising that the average premium will drop.
Agreed, which is why I’m surprised Mufasa is arguing that premiums will go up. I have not heard that.
I think you present a challenging issue, and I certainly don’t have the answers (I’m not in healthcare). I’m not trying to say this is the right, wrong, best, or worst solution. I’m only saying I heard premiums will go down, and was surprised somebody was arguing they will go up.
I have had a few talks with my sister-in-law who is a nurse to try to better understand from somebody in the day-to-day, and healthcare is a really tough situation. She notices (obviously this is one account at one hospital in one area of healthcare) how the hospitals that make money only take in patients they know they can fix and have insurance. That leaves a lot of people hanging. When people request to have “everything possible” done, that can be challenging if you consider costs vs quality of life or chance of success… but who gets to make that decision?