Hello guys, I am currently having a debate with a guy who claims that sports such as rugby, NFL are drug free and that if one or two people are caught via a drugs test, it means that 90% of the team are drug free just because they passed a drugs test.
But my point is that failing a drugs test means that person is person was not lucky or intelligent enough to pass a test. I need help with finding sites that have evidence about steroids in sports such as rugby and the corruption of anti doping, and sports agencies.
The man has also said that his father was only 5ft6 but weighed 225lbs at 10% bodyfat drug free lol.
I have tried using Google but I was finding it hard digging through the amount of find the gold and this is a site that knows all about muscle, drug use, that is why I decided to ask you for help.
I know a lot more about the use of sports with drugs, but I still hope youâll unearth the websites with the evidence youâre looking for. Blow the whole fucking thing open man.
Professional sports are about entertainment, not sports. Bread and circuses man. Enjoy them, but donât take them so serious. They take non-narcotic pain shots before every NFL game. If not feeling pain isnât performance enhancing I donât know what is.
If your broâs dad was 5â6" 225 10% he probably looked damn impressive, good for him.
I am not hoping to expose any corruption on a large scale, I made this thread in order to receive help with finding links to sites that report the usage of PEDs such as steroids in sports such as NFL, Rugby etc.
If you can please explain how a two year old topic (or any other topic that is about 2 years old for that matter) holds any relevance to the present thread then be my guest or otherwise, stop attempting to sabotage the thread with unwarranted bullshit.
Ahh. Iâll admit the title âbear modeâ and the first post talking about âhooker physiqueâ worried me a little.
That thread boiled down to: âI want to be hugeâ followed by âall huge guys use steroidsâ and ignoring advice offered.
As for drugs in sports. Look at the lengths Russia went to in order to cheat the Olympics. The Olympics have no money. Pro sports has money, and thus more incentive to cheat.
But why do you need proof so bad for an argument? Do you have less self worth because linebackers exist who are 265 with abs and run a 4.5 40? I donât care about the drugs honeslty, thatâs impressive.
The US gets $25K for gold. Thatâs nothing compared to our big pro sports but if youâre into one of the sports where you can compete 8 times such as swimming then you can do ok. Michael Phelps makes out with about $200k after a few weeks of competing. I know he trains year round but Iâd still take it. I train for free⊠Actually I pay money.
Even through you contradicted yourself with the line: âProfessional Sports are about entertainment, not sportsâ I do however, get what you were implying. But, I never said that I take such sports with such seriousness.
The point of the thread was to ask for help with finding links to credible sites about ped use in sports, in order to prove the guy wrong since he wants me to prove him wrong with evidence.
The guy is under the delusion that the reason Pro Rugby and NFL players are so big with low body fat percentages is because of new supplements that involve herbs as well as creatine and asparic acid.
My point about his dad was that according to the FFMI, his stats are that of somebody who is not natural and I even suggested to the guy that he could easily have been exaggerating his stats especially his bodyfat.
I have even pointed out to him that CT Fletcher has not participated in a strict bodybuilding unit but that he has also passed a drugs test. Does that mean that he was also a true natty? The guys reply was that âBodybuilding companies lie about being strict about steroid usageâ but yet he says that RP and NFL players are drug free because they say so.
What proof do you need? Around 4/5 guys per year get punished for PED use in the NFL. They get varying degrees of punishment depending on their history. There. Some guys use, not all of them. Case closed. Use google and pull up 10 of those stories.
Drugs tests are more unreliable than you think. People can train on drugs and stop taking them before a competition drug test and normally pass the test as clean. This is usually helped by a coach who knows what they are doing.
Say for example a Olympic Weightlifter taking 1 good but not all-inclusive test 1 week before a competition. They would have just under 4 years to train on Drugs. There are measures done to reduce this like Out of Competition Testing.
Also drug tests are not done to every member of a team usually especially low level events.
For example the IPF does this; âICT is conducted at international competitions, such as when 2 or 3 or more athletes are selectedâ
Not everyone is tested therefore not everyone can be found.
Either your reading skills need work or you are deliberately ignoring the line about me saying that I was struggling to dig through the amount of shit on Google in order to find the gold and that is the reason that I had asked for help in the first place since people on this site know a lot about about finding such verified sites on the usage of PEDs in drugs than someone like myself.
Your line about about me having low self esteem just because I made this topic is extremely farfetched and clearly shows you often jump to conclusions based on your previous line such as the one that implied that I, myself supposedly take such sports seriously. You are missing the point.
Another example of possible bad reading skills and of you clutching at straws is that of your earlier admission of you âreadingâ a two year old thread and jumping to the conclusion that I ignored all the advice that was offered to me? How do you know that when I had time, I didnât visit the site in order to read the info that was handed to me? After all, I still remember Badger giving me some decent advice on constructing a workout plan based on strongman work.
Forgive me. But I think the obsession with âwhoâs on drugsâ is the debate whiney little ankle biters have so they can feel better about themselves and their lack of progress. So I was likely a little harsh. The ânatty or notâ argument is tired and old. I meant you no harm.
Also donât mock my reading comprehension skills if you canât Google. See links below. Most lists include substance abuse and PEDâs side by side so youâll have to split it out since substance abuse is usually MJ.