[quote]bigflamer wrote:
You seem upset that I called you out on your ignorance; oh well, I just call 'em as I see 'em. Based on your response, I’d say I struck a nerve didn’t I sparky. Re read my post, apply a little reading comprehension, and you will arrive at the fact that I simply called out your ignorance, and never really delved into the arena of “dick wagging”.
Now run along and read up on your secind amendment rights. It’d do you a world of good.[/quote]
No, I “seem” upset because I actually tried to take a shot in politics, and three internet tough guys like you that all in a row basically pointed and said “Hey, you’re a fucking dumbass!” I guess it never really dawned on any of you to take the time to explain why I was wrong, because looking like an internet badass is way more fun than discussing where my information went wrong. I guess that’s just some crazy Marxist human philosophy I have though - Helping others when they’re not knowledgeable! I bet the thought never even went through your thick fucking skull to address where I went wrong, because shitting on my people is much more productive, right? Whatever gets you off at the end of t he day though, dude. I guess I just don’t understand when people went from being humanitarians to being jackasses constantly. It’s people like you that keep me from trying to learn more about politics.
And responding to you and Sifu: It’s a bit comical you keep trying to pinpoint where I’m from in MI, yet none of you will even come out and say where you’re from. Internet toughguyism prevails again.
And p.s. - If all you do is post on a Political forum, why the fuck are you on a bodybuilding website?
[quote]jayski wrote:
This is straight from the United States Constitution:
(you know, the country I assume you reside and enjoy the freedoms it has to offer)
Amendment 2 - Right to Bear Arms. Ratified 12/15/1791.
“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
If you don’t know what infringed means, it means “to violate, transgress, encroach, trespass”.
I don’t see anything that states that this was ALL about protecting us from the British. As you probably noticed this amendment was ratified in 1791, ten years after General Cornwallis surrendered (not personally) to General Washington at Yorktown, October 19th, 1781. The treaty of Paris was signed in 1783, bringing the offical end to the war. As you can see this had nothing to do with the British, seeing as the war was already over.
But you DO know that the right to bear arms wasn’t actually our idea, it was actually from the English. It goes way back, several centuries back, before firearms of course. But the protestant colonists did have the right to bear firearms under the English Bill of Rights 1689:
“That the subjects which are Protestants may have Arms for their Defense suitable to their Conditions, and as allowed by Law.”
Of course this would, as we know, backfire on the British nearly a hundred years later. Now if this right were to be taken away, then what would stop them from taking away or from “changing” some of the other bill of rights? Here you can read up on the constitution from this site or find your own resources to learn it and start reading up on some history. It’s always good to learn something new.
http://usconstitution.net/const.html[/quote]
Hey, I appreciate the info. Although my information was definitely wrong, (a swing and a miss for No Child Left Behind!) I was more trying to point out the fact that the second amendment IS outdated and essentially unaltered due to essentially the strongest lobbyist presence in the country.
Although I in no way think the actual right to own a gun should be revoked, I think it’s a bit silly that people claim to feel unsafe enough to own a gun, because you can a stroll through Texas and every third ornery bastard down there is packing heat on them. That makes me feel really comfortable.