OMG, NO. You guys really are from Mars and us from Venus. Reading these kinds of threads always surprises me in that they show me that men truly know much, much less about women than many women believe men know.
I think it’s a difference between what woman THINK they want, and what woman ACTUALLY want(generalizing about 80% of them).
They THINK they want some nice guy, but then he turns into a friend. guy=screwed.
They ACTUALLY want that somewhat of an ass type.
and yes, like others here, i’ve had a couple times where i have tried to just tell girls off completely, in multiple OBVIOUS ways, and they start stalking/calling more and more. its scary.
Like i said though, only 80%(im making this up obviously) this applies to. Some girls can actually see what they want completely, and go after the nice wholesome guy. Not most though. I also think this percentage increases(20% to say 50% and more) as you get older, and looks become less important, and really just the values the person has become number 1.