I think everyone, especially naturals, should focus on relative strength in the beginning until they put up some respectable poundages in exercises like squats, pullups, chinups, overhead presses, dips, bent over or dumbbell rows, and deadlifts.
However, after some time, if they want to have the most aesthetically pleasing physique, they have to make adjustments to their training and have a pure bodybuilding program. But if they want to just be a recreational lifter that’s big and strong, having “capped delts”, “teardrops”, “outer thigh sweep”, and a “v-taper” might be of little importance.
And again, this comes down to just how serious one wants to get also. Yes, there have been powerlifter-bodybuilder hybrids who did GOOD in both endeavors, but they were not at the very top of either. But then again, if one is not destined to be the best in either and he does those two thins for his personal reward and a lifestyle, either competitively or non-competitively, then not being the best isn’t in the card anyway, and he can do what he pleases. When Kirk Karwoski was asked about why he didn’t do a bodybuilding show during a time when he was very lean at 240-something, he said he wanted to accomplish specific things in powerlifting by a certain age and time frame and a physique show would disrupt that plan. [/quote]
what do mean by pure bodybuilder training?
cause there are alot of natural bodybuilders who use strength prioritization, and actual power lifting programs in the off-season. layne norton, jeff alberts, alberto nunez, matt ogus just to name a few. [/quote]
What I mean by pure bodybuilding training is the training nearly all bodybuilders do all of the time, a typical setup like:
- 3 to 4 sets of 8 to 12 reps or 6 to 8 reps for all exercises
- “training bodyparts”, not “training lifts”, not “training assistance movements”
- 2 to 4 sets per muscle group
- following a bodypart split, not days dedicated to improving lifts
Yes, I know there are guys who dabble in both, and if dabbling in both doesn’t hurt their accomplishments in either, then that’s good! However, the best in either never tampered with the other, and I think this says something, as I’ve gone over before.
Now, once muscle is built in some areas, it’s highly unlikely that muscle will be lost during a 3 to 6 month powerlifting stint, but max strength can suffer during a bodybuilding phase and we should take notice that some bodybuilders do not feel the flat bench, back squats, and/or deadlifts are not the best exercises for their personal physique makeup and that by excluding these exercises during a bodybuilding phase, they are not making headway in them. They’ll also lose ground if they don’t include 1 to 5 rep max lifts because straining with a 1 to 5 rep max is very different than lifting for reps.
Anyway, losing some ground here and there shouldn’t be of consequence to some guy that doesn’t even compete in either. [/quote]
layne norton dabbles in both and he is one of the best on the natty bodybuilding stage.
anyway both ways have been proven to work. it just seems alot of good natty coaches are turning more to strength increases in the big exercises (powerlifting movements or variations of them) as their main measurement of progression for themselves and trainees , alot happen to compete in both powerlifting and bodybuilding.