The Return of Even More Movies You've Watched This Week III

Just finished watching this.

I saw it as a broad social commentary with some characters very recognizably analogous to many of the most public of the recent past.

Really liked it. Very entertaining. But also reflects my views on why I love individuals but despise humanity.

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I watched it. I’m going to give a more in depth review later, but there was absolutely nothing - beginning, middle, or end, which could possibly be construed as pro-right-wing, and was in fact attempting to push a traditionally left-wing narrative down our throats in much more of a forceful manner than any of the previous movies. Again - I’m going to write a long review later with the proper spoiler alerts and everything like that, and once again you can interpret or enjoy the movie how you want, but this:

is objectively false, and this:

Is not the face of a left-wing trans woman who sometime between 2 weeks ago and the widespread release of the movie pulled a complete 180 degree turn in politics and took down the left-wing propaganda machine.

It’s just common sense, dude. You interpret things however YOU want, but she is so radically opposed to the ideas that you’re mentioning, like:

Considering her and her brother both transitioned to women, I don’t think they give a fuck about “traditional values”.

But as I said, I have a LOT more to say about the movie that doesn’t necessarily involve politics - I just had to address the political elephant in the room. No, Lana Wachowski didn’t have a right-wing renaissance moment.

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looking for a recommendation for good family Horror movies.

A couple weeks ago I watched the old classic The Thing starring Kurt Russel. Surprisingly, despite the slow pace by today’s standards, it held my kids interest the whole way through. I’m always looking for stuff the whole family can do together so I thought movie night every weekend.

Last weekend I picked Friday The Thirteenth and that was a disaster. It turned out to be a 2009 remake, which could have been okay except this one was practically pornographic. My kids are 20, 14 & 11 so that was no Bueno.

I’m going to vet better but it will be great if I can get some suggestions to point me in the right direction. Preferably available on Netflix, Hulu or Amazon.

Poltergeist

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Fyi you’re wasting your time. This dude’s posts are full of unsubstantiated, and usually false, hyperbole. Dude is european, said 40% of people have left NY…his posts are full of similar statements in the forums you have blocked fyi, lol.

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Gremlins.

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Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

The family that slays together stays together!

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So many options, dude.

If you liked the classic horror movie, go with Aliens (1986), or redo your Friday the 13th disaster and watch Halloween (1978). You’ve got Nightmare on Elm Street, you’ve got The Shining, you can just honestly run through ALL the classics.

Bit newer stuff: I had fun watching 1408, with John Cusack. I don’t know how good it was, but it was definitely entertaining.

For a fantasy twist, as long as gore isn’t a problem (I too shy away from anything sexual with my kids, but gore is fine and doesn’t bother them, and they’re 4 and 6), Pan’s Labyrinth was really great. I don’t know about the others, but that one’s on Netflix.

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@on_edge - I just watched that ^ movie for the first time and enjoyed it (thought it was hilarious) but there is a topless girl at the beginning and later on a not-very-graphic but incredibly (and amusingly) vocal sex scene. I had thought about showing it to my brothers (similar ages) since it’s really not that scary, but yeah, there’s a couple scenes that you may not want your younger ones to watch.

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I’d go with the original Fright Night and it’s sequel.

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did you watch the Friday the 13th remake with your 11y/old child?

I hate to be the bearer of bad news… but no 70s/80s era slasher flick is appropriate for an 11 y/old.

Perhaps the original alien (1979)… maybe the original Halloween too, however Halloween (1978) does contain brief nudity and a sex scene of short duration… Culturally, attitudes towards this differ. In parts of Europe 12y/olds can watch films with explicit sexual content without parental oversight. When I lived in the US I noted many were very squeamish when it came to sex.

However I do believe the old Halloween could secure a pg-13 rating if they were to cut out say… 30 seconds of material involving the nudity and some of the violence.

Should also note the premise of Halloween (deranged, psychopathic lunatic escaping from a mental asylum and going on a killing spree) will give some nightmares. Micheal Myers is the bogeyman, the real life monster that hides under your bed at night…

Did you get the uncut version of the Friday the 13th remake? Uncut version lengthens the sex scene that was cut to avoid nc-17 rating. Cut version significantly tones the gore and the sexual content down, but still far from appropriate for an 11 y/old.

Original Friday the 13th (1980) has graphic violence, a tad of teen drug use, coarse language and mild sexual content. It’s not made for young kids… it’s targeted towards older teens.

You can actually view content advisory online before watching with kids. It’ll somewhat spoil the film for you (can typically opt to avoid looking at spoilers) but it’ll allow you to gauge whether it is appropriate for an 11/14 year old

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SPOILER ALERT

This is my review of The Matrix: Resurrections, so if you haven’t seen it, and plan on seeing it, the next sentence/rating is my shorthand review, and don’t read anything below that. @dt79 I don’t know if you’ll read my review or not, but you should watch the movie, I think you’d give a hilarious review of it as well.

The Matrix: Resurrections was a dismal sequel and a disastrous finale to a series that could have began and ended 21 years ago. 2.5/10.
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The 2.5 points that this movie garnered to raise its rating from a deserved 0 to the generous 2.5 I bestowed on it is based solely on the neat, repackaged idea of Neo reliving his life in the Matrix as a blue pill-er. I’m serious – that’s a great idea. The execution, on the other hand, is almost indescribably bad. I honestly don’t know where to start, but I guess we could kick this off with Keanu’s performance. It was abysmal, and yet it’s hard to tell if it’s anything to do with Keanu, strangely enough. He’s notoriously hard-working and skilled, but anyone who’s seen enough of his movies knows that he’s basically always just Keanu, and the story or the mood usually fits him perfectly. From Bill and Ted to Constantine, when a movie is built properly around Keanu, it all runs smoothly.

It doesn’t, here. Every single line sounds forced. It was difficult to watch at times, with how bad it was. The movie felt so forced that even Keanu couldn’t keep up. But wait, you say – if the dialogue is poor and Keanu can’t keep up, then doesn’t he at least kick ass with glorious CGI and choreography that suggest that we’re nearly a quarter century out from the CGI and choreography that captured the minds of the audience so long ago? I mean, that’s what Keanu DOES, right? John Wick and all that? Sure, it’s what Keanu does – just not in this movie. He’s a force field. He stops an absolute crap ton of bullets. Not like the first movie – I mean thousands, maybe even a million plus bullets. He can only redirect a rocket, which seems like less of a big deal than stopping a minigun on a chopper, but it’s still something. Of course, he can’t fly anymore, he can only do these totally normal things. OTHER people fight, but the fight scenes suck, so hard. They bring back a ton of the old-school moves that you remember from the original movies, but none of it feels organic and it’s all a jumbled mess.

The next thing to touch on is the real world. Jada Pinkett Smith looks ridiculous. I couldn’t put my finger on what she looked like until I read something on reddit describing her as Jack Sparrow’s grandmother, and that’s exactly what she looked like. She’s not bad or anything in the role she was given, but she just looks…dumb. Not as dumb, of course, as her friendly sentinel friends that look like giant Pokemon. No, I’m not making this up, if you’re reading this without having seen the movie, she has robot Pokemon friends that are friendly, but speak robot beep-speak instead of something else, like fucking English, because we already know the robots in this series speak it better than I do.

Gosh, there’s so much more, but I would need to watch the movie again to go more in-depth about other scenes, so we’ll just hit on the big picture of the movie – the point that Lana Wachowski was trying to make about Neo, and Trinity, and the Matrix, and according to @ins, about the left-wing propaganda machine:

SPOILER ALERT AGAIN:
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Trinity is the One. She’s the one who can fly. She’s the one who stops Neo from falling. She’s the one who, along with Neo, at the end of the movie, puts on sunglasses in her trenchcoat while Neo stands near her, putting on his sunglasses in HIS trenchcoat, and they fly away HOLDING HANDS (no fucking joke, again) to a brass horns cover of RATM’s “Wake Up” that is so fucking laughably bad that I hope whoever wrote that song is driven out of the music industry for the rest of their miserable lives.

Again, according to the guy who brought my attention to this, apparently that’s Lana Wachowski’s realization that the left wing propaganda machine is bad? OR, since again, both Lana and Lilly have talked about the Matrix now being about trans identity, it’s a metaphor for a guy realizing that the girl inside of him was the one who would give him, and ultimately her, the power to be all she could be. That’s the much more obvious metaphor for the movie, and it’s fucking lame. How did this come about? Well, a bunch of fans of the movie came up with a conspiracy theory that the Matrix was about trans identity years ago, and tied it in with the red pill, since estrogen pills in the ‘90s were red. This is just my opinion, but it seems to ME like Lana and Lilly, or Larry and Andy, whoever they identified as when they jumped on this, liked this idea, convinced themselves that that’s what the Matrix movies had been about all along, and then created this disaster of a movie to ram that narrative down our throats. That conspiracy theory, in my opinion, is as dumb as the alt-right red-pill conspiracy theory on the other side of the aisle.

Let’s be clear – I have absolutely nothing against any trans person, and I don’t give a crap who Lana and Lilly identify as, when they did it, how they did it, or anything like that. It doesn’t bother me in the slightest. But when you watch the movie, and see Neo and Trinity flying away holding fucking hands, and the climax of the movie talks about Neo “needing to realize who he was to become the hero he could be”, it’s just so not clever at all – yes, Lana may have needed to realize who she was to be the person she always knew she could be, but I flat out refuse to believe the original Matrix, or even the 2 after it, had anything to do with that.

I have a my own take: Lana Wachowski is full of crap, and if Neo needs Trinity to be the one, then Lana needs Lilly, because her first installation of this series without her sister was horrible, and it made Revolutions look like a fucking masterpiece. The 3 movies were never about trans identity. That’s a conspiracy theory that they both have convinced themselves since reading about it that it must have been what they subconsciously made the movies about, it was a beautifully repackaged Allegory of the Cave with commentary on corporate slavery, and it was APOLITICAL, so however you choose to interpret this dumpster fire, if you agree it has political undertones then it’s a failure, no matter what side you believe it to be on. Again, that’s my take – the movie was clearly about everything she said it was going to be about in the lead-up, I just reject the idea that any of that crap applies to any of the previous 3 movies, ESPECIALLY the first.

I’m now off to watch the original Matrix to wash the taste of that piece of shit out of my mouth.

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Spoiler alert…
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You miss a lot of the context.

First Neo is in the Matrix in a weird narrative taking blue pills. He has some visions, but the blue pills are stopping him.

Second of all in the movie it is said that Warner Bros are forcing the studio to make a sequel. Which is what exactly the movie is, forced. The parody is in the woke office and how they come up with cool ideas to make the sequel. That is the direct criticism how the sequel is made and how woke narratives are forced.

Neo escapes the Matrix with a red pill. Red and blue here are directly democratic and republican in this movie. It has nothing to do with estrogen blockers. If you are having blue pills you live in the Matrix, or the narrative of media, corporate woke structures, the narratives the Democratic Party is trying to have. Red pill brings you in the real world.

Lastly. Trinity is not the one. Neo and Trinity are the one together. This is very well discribed when explaining about their revival. And how the bad guy found out that when they are together they are very strong, but if they are close but still in some distance he can control them. This is a direct hint about the nuclear family and the need of man and women to be together. How they as a whole are very strong.

The movie ends with Neo and Trinity saying something along the lines… Thank you for giving us a second chance, without you we would not be able to make it. Basically a criticism the the current America, the media, the Democratic Party. And how the conservatives would not be able to rise if the propaganda and the failure was not that bad. Here the author also hints for change of mind.

I can’t get your criticism seriously if you thought Trinity is the One. When in the movie it is clearly explained how together and only together they are the one.

Are you smoking crack, dude? A trans woman who made the jump from man to woman before making this movie puts a man and a woman together in one package as the one, and you think that’s a metaphor for the nuclear family?

And yes - I get that they said they’re the one together, but my point was, she’s the one who can actually do the flying at the end of the movie. It’s like he became her. Or TRANSITIONED.

It is NOT a characterization of a traditional man-and-woman union, you doofus.

By the way - I can’t get your post seriously if you didn’t even read mine.

I was sucked into the movie in the beginning. I thought it had an interesting start, and didn’t know where it was going to go.

Started getting worse as the movie went on.

I verbally said, that sucked as the credits rolled. Good start, but the movie as a whole sucked.

People have taken a lot away from especially the first Matrix movie. The message they think is being conveyed. It came out when I was in middle school, and all the boys my age loved it. Because of that, it was a youth group topic. Picking the red pill was picking Jesus, but the blue was choosing to stay worldly. It can be argued just as easily that it was the opposite message, or numerous other metaphors. That might be part of the appeal, you can take what you want from it.

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You CAN take what you want from it, but you can’t make Lana Wachowski a right-wing nuclear family advocate. She’s just literally the opposite of that. She was one of the fiercest critics of the Trump administration, and that hasn’t changed.

Like, seriously - a trans woman is making a movie about how men are better off in traditional relationships with women?

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I agree with that. Trying to make it into a revolt against left wing woke media makes the least sense to me of all the crazy theories I’ve heard about the series.

The movie to me was a heavy handed feminist love story, which required Neo to relinquish power (finding his place so to speak) to Trinity.

The action scenes sucked, and the CGI and special effects were somehow worse than the original movie.

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That was good. I even read it to my wife, and she liked it too.

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The most basic message of the first Matrix movie is that truth matters. That’s a very universal message and basically everyone can use it for their own purposes because the movie doesn’t really take the next step and try to define what the truth is. The other movies moved away from that message and suffered because of it.

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I watched it last night after reading your exchange with @ins . Wasn’t intending to before that lol. Boy, was it a train wreck. Will comment later. I loved how Neo said he knew kungfu and immediately started doing silat moves (The Indonesian fighting style that was in Wu Warriors) which isn’t kungfu LMAO.

In case some SJWs get offended by me making a distinction between “Asian” fight styles, let me be clear about why I wrote that. The non-movie world, real combat version of penchak silat is LEGIT. It was created in Indonesia as a fighting style that resembled dancing so the authorities wouldn’t notice and put a stop to it. You can go watch fights on YouTube. It’s like MMA.

There is NO version of kungfu that isn’t nonsense except maybe 1% of Hung Kar fist and 0.01% of Tai Chi principles. The Qing government completely outlawed all this and burned down the original Shaolin Temple so even the wushu you see displayed in the Olympics or whatever events I don’t know because I don’t watch any of them other than weightlifting that people go to the rebuilt Shaolin Temple to learn is a construct of people who knew maybe 50% of the actual fighting styles.

Same. It was horrific. I can’t even remember much of the movie other than that because it was so fucking boring lol, which is why I’m reading all the stuff you guys are debating to refresh my memory before commenting.

I was never a fan of The Matrix trilogy and the only thing I really remember is I yelled out something like, “That’s the worst motivational speech in movie history” during part 3 and the entire row of people in front of me started laughing and after watching lots of shitty unintentionally funny B movies in the cinema, I recognized that kind of laughter. It was the kind that people hold back because they don’t know whether to take the shit happening on screen seriously or not.

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