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The Over-35 Juicer

Hello e1,

I laugh everytime I go to post… this age discrimination thing has me torn… :stuck_out_tongue: I never know which forum to post in these days… :stuck_out_tongue: I am Jet and I am an over-35 steroid user. (damn that sounded like my greeting at an AA meeting). (AASA maybe?)

Okay so here’s my not so interesting questions of the day.
I run 300mg T 300mg Primo and 100mg Mast. e3d (typically)… I got stupid and lent vials of Primo and Mast to a friend about 3 weeks ago and haven’t been able to replenish them quickly enough to stay up on my regime…
I ran out of Mast first about 4 inj days ago, so the last four times I added just about 75mg more of each T and Primo… don’t even ask me for the logic… but it gets even “dumber”… I ran out of Primo just this last inj day so I shot 500mg and plan to do the same e3d until my gear is replenished. Thoughts? Thanks :wink:

Okay… now a building question…

I have hit a wall with my arms… I don’t measure them, but at 195lbs and 5’10" I would say they are up there with the larger in my gym. In only about 4 months of working them hard. My bi’s and tri’s are exceptional… my forearms could use some work… but I can’t get anymore in my arms I am noticing… I have been able to increase my weights significantly this last month, but no more growth…

I eat clean and hard… I can’t even tell you how many 35g shakes I drink a day (i double them in the am and pm)… great fats and a few good carbs for a total of about 4000cals a day…

Any thoughts?

Lastly… as we all know… I got deadwood… lol. I mean I can get the thing up to save my life (or wife… if I had one) but I never ever ever have morning wood… No libido, and less than stellar wood when I do get it.

Test levels tested off the charts… to the good, est. was 24… doc says I am all good physically.

Now here’s the embarrassing catch… I FREAKIN SMOKE CIGARETTES… I was thinking that this has all to do with both the lack of good wood and the wall I have hit with my arms… I really think it could have something to do with it… you know blood flow, carbon monoxide… all that bad stuff…

Thoughts?

As usual… thanks… you all are the best.

Jet.

take some viagra or cialis… that will help for sure. and why the fuck do you smoke cigarettes??

[quote]muscle_mike wrote:
take some viagra or cialis… that will help for sure. and why the fuck do you smoke cigarettes??[/quote]

Why…? Because I watched my rolemodels (parents…etc) I am 47 it was commonplace to smoke… Why haven’t I stopped… I am so freaking addicted… It’s the one thing I have yet to manage… I am trying… promise.

I have incredible willpower and determination as those of you that know me know… I hate the fact that I smoke… I have tried everything… but will continue to try. I know… you might think, just “Stop”… other smokers might chime in and help explain it’s an addiction worse than crack.

Peace bro… really trying,

Jet

It is in no way worse than crack…you just don’t want to quit. I smoked for many years and when I decided to quit, I quit. It definitely sucks at first, but the hardest part is not the nicotine addiction. Removing them from your thoughts is what is difficult.

Two thoughts for you, sir:

  1. http://www.T-Nation.com/readArticle.do?id=459521

The above link should help, reference a killer forearm workout, which should help with bicep strength as well.

  1. Committ lozenge, for quitting smoking. I hate to admit it, but I smoked for 20 years. I gave quitting a half-hearted attempt with the lozenge (disolves slowly, releasing nicotine) and it worked like a charm. Tapered three pills a day to two to one to none over a three month period. That was five years ago. Thankful every day.

Can’t answer other Q’s, sorry.

5.0

I also meant to ask - the “all good physically” includes your blood pressure? How’s that? That could have an impact on “little” Jet…

[quote]fiveoh01 wrote:
I also meant to ask - the “all good physically” includes your blood pressure? How’s that? That could have an impact on “little” Jet…[/quote]

good question 5.0… it is moderately high… like avgs at 140/90… when cycling. So maybe, huh? Thanks I never considered that… so now what? I really haven’t given any thought to how to control it, the script drugs seem to have too many sides to consider while working hard… ie lethargy, fatigue… thoughts?

thanks, Jet

Your BP doesn’t sound too awfully high, but who knows, you could just be sensitive to it.

As your experience dictates, everything has sides, and there are ways to combat them. I’d go back to the doctor - there are so many new medications available today, your not doing yourself justice at least investigating it somewhat. Discuss all the common sides with him and see what would work best for you.

If lethargy is a problem, I’ve read where CoQ10 is a big help, assisting the body convert food to energy. My father takes both a statin and blood pressure lowering medication, and he had no energy at all. His doc recommended CoQ10, and it worked like a charm.

Other than that, naturally speaking, pick up your cardio and drink lots of water.

Good luck!

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[quote]fiveoh01 wrote:
Your BP doesn’t sound too awfully high, but who knows, you could just be sensitive to it.

As your experience dictates, everything has sides, and there are ways to combat them. I’d go back to the doctor - there are so many new medications available today, your not doing yourself justice at least investigating it somewhat. Discuss all the common sides with him and see what would work best for you.

If lethargy is a problem, I’ve read where CoQ10 is a big help, assisting the body convert food to energy. My father takes both a statin and blood pressure lowering medication, and he had no energy at all. His doc recommended CoQ10, and it worked like a charm.

Other than that, naturally speaking, pick up your cardio and drink lots of water.

Good luck!

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As for Co Q-10, I am a huge advocate and use it coupled with R-ALA…thanks to the advice of my friend Bushy… Been taking it for about 2.5 months and it has improved my energy and body composition… (lowered bodyfat about 5% in the first two months)…

I will talk to the doc about the pressure… They all comment on it, but no one ever felt it was high enough to treat I guess.

Peace bro, and thanks for the consideration.

Jet

No worries - I should’ve mentioned the no brainer for lowering BP. Quit smoking!! Maybe that’s all you need…

[quote]fiveoh01 wrote:
No worries - I should’ve mentioned the no brainer for lowering BP. Quit smoking!! Maybe that’s all you need…[/quote]

I have Chantix the new US prescription drug that is the first that is supposed to fool the nicotine receptors into thinking they are getting their “fix”… I tried it about 9 months ago and stopped because of nausea… (common side)… (and the fact that I went from one pack to two while on it … lol

I have concluded that I probably would be better off puking my guts out for a few weeks while I adjust than to stroke out and leave my kids fatherless. I am going to give it another shot starting Sunday. Thanks 5.0

Jet

[quote]fiveoh01 wrote:
If lethargy is a problem, I’ve read where CoQ10 is a big help, assisting the body convert food to energy. My father takes both a statin and blood pressure lowering medication, and he had no energy at all. His doc recommended CoQ10, and it worked like a charm.
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What is the dosing schedule for the CoQ10 for an over 200lb’er (on BP meds)…I have the stuff around but only used it sporadically, now I know what to look for…

Cialis (30-60 mg) works great for me. Or try 50 mg Viagara and 30 mg Cialis. Its easy to order on-line and extraordinarily cheap. Stay away from Deca-type steroids (ever hear of Deca-dick?). HCG also worked well for me.

I have Chantix the new US prescription drug that is the first that is supposed to fool the nicotine receptors into thinking they are getting their “fix”… I tried it about 9 months ago and stopped because of nausea… (common side)… (and the fact that I went from one pack to two while on it … lol

Okay, let me preface with, no I don’t own stock, nor do I have any affiliations with the makers of the Committ Lozenge. Have you tried this? They come in 2 or 4mg pills, and you control the release of nicotine. I kept it (4mg) in my cheek, like chewing tobacco, almost all day.

When it was gone, I put in another. I then tapered off over a few months. It was a virtually painless transition!! The only side was a little tingling sensation, but very tolerable. Absolutely NO nausea, that would SUCK! All the while you’re tapering off your body’s addiction for the nic, so when you’re down to one pill a day and then stop, your irritability and cravings are pretty minimal.

To help support yourself, have your teeth cleaned, and go running. I would curse every cigarette ever smoked when running…

What is the dosing schedule for the CoQ10 for an over 200lb’er (on BP meds)…I have the stuff around but only used it sporadically, now I know what to look for…

Let’s see. My dad’s about 230, and he takes one 100mg pill every morning. That seems to work for him…He also thinks green tea supps help.

[quote]fiveoh01 wrote:
Two thoughts for you, sir:

  1. http://www.T-Nation.com/readArticle.do?id=459521

The above link should help, reference a killer forearm workout, which should help with bicep strength as well.

  1. Committ lozenge, for quitting smoking. I hate to admit it, but I smoked for 20 years. I gave quitting a half-hearted attempt with the lozenge (disolves slowly, releasing nicotine) and it worked like a charm. Tapered three pills a day to two to one to none over a three month period. That was five years ago. Thankful every day.

Can’t answer other Q’s, sorry.

5.0 [/quote]

Another good reason to quit: with all the money you save, think of all the good ‘stuff’ you can buy. :smiley:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
fiveoh01 wrote:
Two thoughts for you, sir:

  1. http://www.T-Nation.com/readArticle.do?id=459521

The above link should help, reference a killer forearm workout, which should help with bicep strength as well.

  1. Committ lozenge, for quitting smoking. I hate to admit it, but I smoked for 20 years. I gave quitting a half-hearted attempt with the lozenge (disolves slowly, releasing nicotine) and it worked like a charm. Tapered three pills a day to two to one to none over a three month period. That was five years ago. Thankful every day.

Can’t answer other Q’s, sorry.

5.0

Another good reason to quit: with all the money you save, think of all the good ‘stuff’ you can buy. :smiley:

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Let me take that one step further… I live in the states and was buying cigarettes from an indian reservation online. Saveing like $14/ctn… The PA DEPT of revenue sent me a letter last month… (2 years after the fact…) saying I was going straigt to hell (wait… i think it was “jail”) if I didn’t send them $14/ctn X 84 CTNS.

I sent it. And still smoke? Sheeeeshhh…

Thanks for reminding me what a sick habit it is.

Peace bro, Jet