[quote]gavra wrote:
[quote]doctor92 wrote:
Having tried both Waterbury’s and CT’s approach to lower reps, I can say that ramping is definitely better. It sounds strange, but sometimes I think that just the act of changing the weight after every set forces you to keep focus, as opposed to keeping the same weight as Waterbury would say.
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yes, exactly the point of ramping is to RAMP the CNS rather than actual way of loading as CT said, and he is right… sometimes… (i trained similar to this for longer time, using various east european routines) I GET BETTER PERFORMANCE IF I DO 6X3 with the same weight, then I just keep the same weight cause sets 4-6 are really PERFECT ones as far as my performance, so as i said, getting max performance is the goal, not the actual loading… sometimes I ramp up, the power is not there, so I go back down… then up again… its gets better, so again I go all the way down and climb it up for even BETTER performance, the one I’m after… there I stop… basically I did 3 workouts then and there… and sometimes i ramp up and just keep doing sets using 75-85% until performance drops a bit (sometime i stop before that)… of course i always try to get as much volume as possible in 75-85% range
to cut it… ramping has its place, but straight weight can be used too… it has its place…
HP mass is a set of principles rather than actual workout that CT recommends… workout is just LEVEL 1, and uses the most basic set of principles… and he’s right about that… I mean some people cant get it THIS SIMPLE, imagine if CT would throw in more advanced stuff right of the bat…
i think CT said there is nothing wrong with full body except that some people get it as they have to do every muscle, from every angle in every full body workout… there we get a problem… but if you look it like this… sheiko is full body, and WSB is upper/lower (sometimes even full body)… i mean who cares if routine packs on muscle
you can always add various circuits at the end… max rep, isolation, strength etc… coupled with sled and eccentric less stuff… it is fair amount of bodybuilding work… if you look at it closely, everything is included in this HP mass based routine…
pressing doesnt have clear preference… it just again CT is right about that not every muscle has to be trained equally… lats/bis simply require different way of loading… and you load every muscle with the type of workout they need… after all MOST back muscles are worked more than pressing muscles sometimes… again, you work rear delts, rhomboids, traps every workout, so why do you think this leads to postural problems???
look, muscles on the back of the body are real delts, traps, rhomboids, hamstrings, glutes, lower back… WHICH ONE OF THESE MUSCLES IS NOT WORKED ENOUGH… I mean you work them EVERY WORKOUT…
I met this guy at european championships held in Vrsac in 2003 and 2003 (IPF, EPF)…
looks like a ramping???
here is he benching… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8Sjbxz8ZI4&playnext=1&list=PLC048B452507A465E&index=67
he is like 50 years old… i trained similar to this… and still i prefer this type of training… and I can assure you its builds muscle… look at any east european routine… it has similarities…
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You make a good point about the back of the body muscles being worked every workout, but pressing clearly has a preference in this routine. That is why the two main workouts are upper body and lower body pressing, and CT claims to upper body press every workout, or day, I cannot remember.
However, the back of the body muscles are not being worked to the extent that the front are. First point is the CT says the upper body assistance work CAN be staggered, but does not make the point that it is a necessity. Further, it seems as though the intensity of the assistance workout is low compared to the pressing. So while the muscles are being worked, are they being worked equally?
Nonetheless, I love this kind of training, but I think it needs to be tailored to individual needs, and not advertised as the greatest thing for everyone. I just see a problem with upper body pressing six times a week, with only one lat day.