The Next President of the United States: IV

^Very well said.

I’ve kinda wrestled a little with this question - should I vote the candidate who I think is best for the country, or the candidate who I think is best for me? Sometimes those will be aligned, but often they won’t. Just to name one obvious example, I am a heterosexual male who is happily married; the issue of gay marriage will never affect me all that directly…but one of my best staff members is gay, and a bunch of my wife’s friends (she’s an opera singer…) are gay, and I have a hard time really “not caring” about LGBT issues.

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I’m constantly throwing out links I find interesting in this thread if you hadn’t noticed and I gave you a rundown earlier as to why I think voting fraud is a concern.

the system isn’t rigged if you narrow your scope to the voting process.

But the system is rigged if you view the rigging as multi-faceted:

  1. Mass immigration from 3rd world countries. 3rd world immigrants vote for the Democrats at a clip of 8-2 generally.

  2. Voter fraud as discussed earlier

  3. MSM completely in the tank for the Democrats. It’s been this way for decades but this election cycle is probably the first time the MSM hasn’t even remotely consider hiding their bias.

Oh, I have noticed that you throw out links all the time.

The problem is that you either have a complete inability to assess what is credible, or you don’t actually care what is credible. I’m not sure which. You’ll dismiss sexual-assault accusations against Trump because he’s married to a model and has a history of sleeping with hot women, but fall hard for a looney-tunes conspiracy theorist’s photoshopped ballot.

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Changing gears for a second to campaign ads:

@SkyzykS - there’s an ad I’ve seen a couple times in area for the McGinty/Toomey race that I’m wondering if you have seen as well. It’s from the Toomey campaign, and it says that we must vote against McGinty on the grounds that McGinty “will give Hillary Clinton a blank check to do whatever she wants” - after the ad was over, I thought for a second and realized what struck me as odd about the whole thing. It was an ad from a Republican candidate that made the case specifically to vote against a Dem candidate because of Hillary - almost like the Toomey campaign had conceded that Hillary would beat Trump (or wanted to create that illusion), and wanted to work the angle that “Well, if Hillary is going to win, make sure you get out there and vote Toomey!”

Note: I am not surprised that a Republican ad would attack a Dem candidate for being like Hillary, that’s not newsworthy. What did surprise me was the tone of the ad, where a Repub candidate treated it as a foregone conclusion that Hillary will be President.

Anyways, Skyz, have you seen this ad? Just curious, figure it has to be running all around our Burgh, right?

Thanks.

Where different groups interests may diverge or converge I try to look at (in my estimation) net effect, and whether it is negative, neutral, or positive. Oddly enough, my thoughts on LGBT issues are primarily based on a friend of mines, who is of all things- gay and staunchly conservative.

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Did mummy give you 30 min of internet access because you remembered to make your bed this morning?

Plus: Starstruck pussy spread their legs faster than the speed of light for famous men.

I see that one run a couple of times per night! The same thing has occurred to me too, about the foregone conclusion. I take that as an appeal to mitigate the damage Hillary will do, and also knowing that a lot of people aren’t going to go straight down the party line. From a regional perspective, there are a lot of hard line dems. that also know where and how their bread gets buttered.

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The thing that confuses me is these radio adds running from Clinton claiming that she was born in Scranton. I’d been confused about that for a long time. When she’s running for anything or trying to get traditional blue collar backing- She’s from Scranton. But her wiki, and when she’s going for broadly metropolitan dems appeal- says she was born and raised in Chicago?

aside:
(oh no! another birther argument!)

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Ha, cool. Glad to hear you had the same thought…I just remember how weird it was the first time I saw it, and thinking afterwards “Wait, why is a Republican congressional candidate running an ad that basically concedes the Presidency to Hillary?”

I interpreted it the same way you did. I understand why the campaign would go that route; just struck me as really funny the first time I saw it.

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Ha, I actually haven’t heard those (I walk to work, so I don’t have a driving commute where I’d listen to the radio). From my understanding, she was born and raised in Chicago but her family did still go spend summers in the Poconos. I definitely agree that it’s a little disingenuous - but I also see that as pretty much out of the standard politician playbook.

Remember when Trump was in Pittsburgh and asked the crowd about Joe Paterno? Funny shit, man. Almost as awkward as Clinton sitting there looking pensive and listening to Mary J. Blige sing.

Oh yeah! That was an epic flop! Especially with such a proud and numerous Penn state population as we have around here. That could not have gone worse.

Did you ever throw out links to the accusations made by a couple women that Trump had sex with them when they were minors?

I feel like the rigged election claims is the Republican’s version of the “Republicans are out to disenfranchise millions of voters right before the election” claim made by the Democrats.

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Another assassination attempt

Let’s hold the phone on this one, champ. I’ve read six different news stories about this and not one has mentioned an “assassination attempt.” We can’t rule it out just yet, but the reporting to date has said only that there was a “disturbance” or “scuffle” near the stage and that someone was escorted out.

I know that the “assassination attempt” story sounds scarier and fits with your worldview that the entire whatever is lined up against Trump (in which case it might be fair to ask why he should be President? Just a thought…) but maybe we should wait for a credible source to mention the “assassination” before the rush to judgement?

I just heard about this now, that’s crazy if it’s true. Someone in the crowd yelled out that “he has a gun”, but NBC is reporting that no gun was found on the suspect or the surrounding area.

Relevant.

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30 years of experience in politics and she is devoid of common sense.

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