[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Murder is murder and to justify it as “a matter of national security” is as equally evil as when it is committed in the name of Jesus or Allah.[/quote]
Point.
Americans love to scream that two thousand people died on 9/11. But point out that 100,000 people died as a result of America’s military actions, and all you’ll hear are justifications.
Before any idiots pipe up, no, its not a matter of having the same visceral sensation of a neighbor dying and a person halfway around the world. It’s a matter of understanding that your particular sensation has nothing to do with the value of human life.[/quote]
First, America is not the only country involved in either place. In both places there was a coalition in place.
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Wow I somehow missed the part where I claimed only America was in either place.
Irrelevant.
You said “…100,000 people died as a result of America’s military actions…”, the singling out of the U.S. with out the mention of others leads one to believe that you single the U.S. out.
War is ugly and it always will be. There seldom is a proper reason for people to die over it, but it happens. Taking an ideological stance on the matter doesn’t make it less ugly or less likely to happen.
It’s easy to criticize, but what are the alternatives?
I see a president with all kinds of ideology walking into the role, looking like based on the information he receives, we had to increase troop presence in Afghanistan and bomb Libya.
I would say with out knowing for sure, there probably isn’t much choice if a peacnik like obama, is bombing the shit out of places, keeping Gitmo open for business, etc. [/quote]
Americans die = THIS IS TRAGIC! WE NEED JUSTICE!
Brown people die = eh. If you wanna make an omlette, gotta break some eggs. It sucks but, hey, thats war.
Brown people apply above “eh” logic to the deaths of Americans = THEY HATE US FOR MERELY EXISTING! THEY HATE FREEDOM![/quote]
How do you know they are brown?
So, what’s your alternative? How do you deal with it?