That makes no sense. The rise of capitalism has created the greatest amount of wealth for the greatest amount of people ever in history. No other economic system has even come remotely close. So if not capitalism, then what? Economic systems have a name.
Everything you said you want to see happen has happened the most under capitalism. Biggest middle class, most amount of disposable income, etc. Right down the line.
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The ironic thing with the people that lament the loss of manufacturing jobs is that they are are the same types of people who would have been lamenting the loss of farming jobs, which is what freed labor for manufacturing in the first place.
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The myth is that education has to be expensive, it doesn’t. You don’t have to go to some big expensive school to get a quality education. If you take advantage of local community colleges and universities that they feed into, not waste money on beer bongs and weed then it’s down right affordable.
Healthcare is expensive precisely because capitalism has been held out of it. Healthcare has no competition, they can charge what they want. Allowing competitive drugs from places like Europe, Canada and Japan would drive prices way down, which would drive all costs down. You allow interstate competition for insurance comapnies and healthcare would be an after thought for most people.
The government got involved and the prices sky rocketed. Just look at the actual facts.
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I hear you, man. I went to community college before transferring to a state school. I’ve never understood why more people don’t take advantage of it.
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I have a degree and no student loans. I worked 30+ hours a week and still went to school full time and I managed to have a party life too.
If you go to Yale or Brown or Berkeley or Alabama, etc. You are going to pay a premium because those are luxury schools.
BTW, remember that story of the Harvard Professors getting all mad because they had to take obamacare?They were the ones who designed part of it and who advocated for it, but they didn’t want it and threw a fit when they were forced to sign up.
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You should be asked the same question as your reply to my statement makes no sense.
And of course your best answer is a non-answer. Laughing and name calling is what you and your ilk fall back on most when they do not have an answer.
People who have lost their jobs due to federal legislation vs. the people who have lost their jobs to cheaper labor so those at the top can make more. Care to quantify?So social mobility(ESPECIALLY INTERGENERATIONAL)and opportunit abound in the U.S.?
Prosperity & Upward Mobility by Country and opportunity
Did slavery and feudalism last? Why or why not?
How is this possible? The SEC doesn’t require disclosure until next year.
Then why has education not “sky rocketed” in other countries who provide it through taxation and completely or almost completely governed by the government?
Yes blame the victim for the massive increase in cost for “healthcare”. Funny how the government run sectors of the healthcare system don’t rise in tandem.
Yes, I know Co-ops exist on the margins. Do you think a Co-op where workers choose the management would vote to pay them millions of dollars while the rest suffocate in debt? Would they vote to send their jobs overseas? I’m not saying they are a panacea but they do have some obvious benefits to the typical business structure in the U.S. Again, you take what works and discard what doesn’t. You figure out the more negative effects of the structure and come up with solutions.
While inequality rises at an incredibly fast rate. Income Inequality Is Costing the U.S. on Social Issues - The New York Times U.S. is no longer number 1 in the world for the average wage. List of countries by average wage - Wikipedia
https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/krueger_cap_speech_final_remarks.pdf
Wow Switzerland which is more highly ranked than the U.S. has a government more closely aligned with Direct Democracy. To think someone may have a better way. I know this is very difficult to accept as gorilla-type chest-thumping is more your jingoistic speed. But facts are facts even if they are inconvenient for your ideology.
The workers ought to own the means of production not the few at the top. This would be a good p[lace to start. And your opinion is that nothing needs to be fixed as everything is working just fine. As inequality rises at a furious pace and the middle class is disappearing. Capitalism in it’s death throes as fewer people have disposable income to keep our economy moving forward and strong.
So are you saying you agree with this model?
Education is paid out of taxes in other countries.
Healthcare is the only industry I’m aware of where the outcomes tend to get worse while profits go up. The healthcare industry have bought off politicians to secure an oligarchy for themselves.
No, moron, they don’t rise in tandem because they are subsidized by our tax money and artificially held low. The COST has still gone up, it is just hidden because of tax money
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Education is subsidized here with tax money. It’s not totally free anywhere.
Which is beside the point. What system is better then ours? I am still waiting on the answer.
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No, laughing is what normal people do when they encounter a clown, which is what you are.
Hows about just one time you do the quantifying.
Lots and lots of bloodshed.
The answer is in your question. Jesus…
There isn’t a “victim” here. Healthcare is not a right. Healthcare has never been a right. [quote=“Zeppelin795, post:712, topic:216385”]
Funny how the government run sectors of the healthcare system don’t rise in tandem.
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Government run, hmmmmmmm…
Switzerland, lol, that tiny ass place. How many US cities are larger than Switzerland. Lord you are dumb.
They can. It’s called a co-op. Go start one and let us know how it goes.
I’m saying if people want to do it, go for it. That’s why Captitalism trumps all other systems. It allows for this to happen. There is nothing, read ZERO, stoppinga group of workers from owning the means of production in the US.
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No moron, that really doesn’t matter. The bottom line is that the costs do not rise nearly as much even when the taxes are figured in. Why do the overwhelmingly other industrialized countries-if not all- on the planet have some form of single-payer healthcare? All subsidized by taxation Are you trying to make the argument that their healthcare systems are more expensive because of taxation?
In terms of healthcare I would say the nations who spend less and get greater overall outcomes. In terms of education I would say countries who don’t saddle the up and coming generation with tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. Whoever practices those systems are doing better than us. But because those systems mirror more closely with the tenets of socialism than capitalism it cannot be accepted.
No slavery and feudalism didn’t last as their internal contradictions came to be too much. Much like what is happening to capitalism today.
So taxation is the bogeyman? What kind of payback is gotten through higher taxation?
Healthcare is a right in most other industrialized countries. And it is far less expensive and often yielding better overall outcomes.
The rise of the workers may do this as they were the reason Trump was elected in the Primary as it was the people giving the finger to the establishment and it was the reason he was elected to the Presidency as they gave the finger to the Democratic establishment. If the DNC didn’t help to sabotage the Sanders campaign he most likely would have won their Primary and most likely would have beaten Trump.