The "Free Market" Failure of the American Healthcare System

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@Basement_Gainz

I’d like to point out something else. Scale.

This is another point I’ve tried to beat into his thick skull to no avail…

@anon50325502

@Zeppelin795

The ACA was written in portion by the insurance companies, so I doubt they are losing billions, like you said.

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@Zeppelin795

And it isn’t a couple of tiny countries, you idiot! Is Canada, England, France and Australia, tiny countries?

Population & demographics of U.S.:

Now Canada:

Now the UK:

France:

And finally Australia:

All these super huge countries,that have their own unique single payer systems for just their countries, when combined equal a population of about 173 million. That’s slightly more than half the U.S. population…

It’s true that many countries with single payer systems have lower per capita costs:
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.PCAP/countries/1W?display=default

However, only a simpleton would look at this and assume it is because of said single payer system that the cost is lower. There are numerous factors to consider. For example, Obesity in the U.S. is higher than all of the other countries listed:

U.S.: 35% = 112M
Canada: 30.1% = 11M
UK: 29.8% = 19M
France: 25.7% = 17M
Australia: 20.1% = 2M

Much like population, combined that’s about 49M people that are obese in these “large” countries, which, again combined, is about 43% of the total number of obese across the United States. We, of course, know that obesity is a precursor to about 1,000 health issues and that obviously drives costs up.

That’s one factor. There are plenty of others like the # of illegals getting treatment here for free or salary structure for example.

Maybe you should know what the fuck you’re talking about before calling someone else an idiot…

@Zeppelin795

Not to mention it is the number 1 reason for bankruptcy in our country. How’s that for the free market heath care system.

The number one, two, and three largest reasons for “bankruptcy in our country” are Medicare, Medicaid, and social security. All three are GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS. I mean, you’re joking right, you think going to a single-payer system will reduce expenditures, hilarious.

http://interactive.taxfoundation.org/income-tax-illustrated/#where-do-americans-tax-dollars-go

@Zeppelin795

So Wall Street greed had nothing to do with the financial meltdown of the late 2000’s?

Ya, I didn’t say that. I know it’s a standard talking point for you, though.

@Zeppelin795

Oh no he mentioned Fidel Castro in a positive light he must be crazy.

Yes, that does, in fact, make him looney tunes.

@Zeppelin795

If you weren’t so blinded by corporate propaganda, you might be able to see how ignorant you are.

Another retarded, but expected talking point of yours. Seriously, you need new material.

@Zeppelin795

So keep believing what the corporate media tells you because they rely on sheep like you to stay in power.

Lol, total non-sense.

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Population & demographics of U.S.: [image] Now Canada: [image] Now the UK: [image] France: [image] And finally Australia: [image] All these super huge countries,that have their own unique single payer systems for just their countries, when combined equal a population of about 173 million. That’s slightly more than half the U.S. population… It’s true that many countries with single payer systems have lower per capita costs: http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD…