This was very well said.
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The problem with this back and forth between Hillary and Trump is that neither one has a leg to stand on when it comes to the truth or ethics. Add the fact that both are engaging in low blows that apply as much to themselves as they do to each other (Hillary attacking Trump on honesty and attacking Trump on the treatment of women when she has the emails and Bill in her closet, or Trump attacking Hillary on looking presidential when he looks like a damned aging Oompa Loompa and canāt string together a coherent sentence) and I still canāt believe anyone is actually supporting one of these fools. Our parties havenāt put up the best and brightest, instead theyāve picked their lowest common denominators. Iām more ashamed of both parties than anything.
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[quote=āanon50325502, post:96, topic:221940, full:trueā]
You are accusing a man of raping several people. That is a serious allegation. No one is saying that it could not have happened or even that it did not happen. However, in this country you are afforded Due Process under the law and you are innocent until proven guilty. [/quote]
Not accusing him, several women are and based on his history of sexual deviance, Iām inclined to believe them.
There was never a trial so stop with mentioning due process. All youāre doing is making yourself look like a robot who thinks the world is binary.
[quote=āanon50325502, post:96, topic:221940, full:trueā]
That doesnāt surprise me in the slightest and per usual it is incredibly hypocritical. Try applying the same standard to Donald Trump.
For example, his ex-wife accused him of violating her. Heās a powerful man that has the ability to circumvent the nationās laws. He must have just paid her off to change her story.
Conjecture is funā¦ [/quote]
Ivana Trump has endorsed Trump and clarified it wasnāt in a criminal sense.
For a guy who has slept with many women, none have come out and said nasty things about him. In fact theyāve all come out and endorsed which is impressive for any man.
Why would I believe heās raped a 13 year old girl? He has no past history to suggest it would be true.
So is Trump a child rapist or not? There is a woman accusing him of it.
Does Trump have a history of sexual deviance?
Yes, had an affair that lead to a divorce. Former wife said he raped her, although not in the criminal sense as you mention. Also a business partner who accused him of sexual assault.
The allegation is with Jeffrey Epstein who is a level 3 registered sex offender after being convicted of misconduct with another underage girl.
Donāt forget to use your sound logic when answering this question: Is Trump a child rapist or not? There is a woman accusing him of it.
I will preface my reply by saying Trump truly sounds like a Flunky Dunce, even in his element (rallies).
However I continue to see President as CEO and CEOs cast vision and hiring people to implement.
In both of these, he is superior to Clinton.
Presidents (CEOs) donāt have to be supercomputers of knowledge, fountains of experience in every pursuit known to man, military geniuses, nor rapier sharp debaters / orators. That is why they have 15 departments and 4 million employees to carry out the tasks.
The bottom line to me is that she represents 30 years of extremely poor performance and promises to push our society in directions (namely socialism and globalism that leads to loss of sovereignty) that do not jive with my world view.
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[quote=āDrew1411, post:108, topic:221940, full:trueā]
Yes, had an affair that lead to a divorce. [/quote]
I donāt consider an affair deviant in of itself, people have affairs all the time. Desecrating arguably the most sacred building in the land then lying about it on National television? Different story.
[quote=āDrew1411, post:108, topic:221940, full:trueā]
Former wife said he raped her, although not in the criminal sense as you mention. Also a business partner who accused him of sexual assault.[/quote]
She dropped it, not sure why you keep mentioning it.
A guy who has a history of sleeping with high end models and beauty pageant winners? Doubtful.
A guy who has a history of having sex with some of the most beautiful women in the world is accused of raping a 13 year old girlā¦ how does that follow exactly?
Are you talking about Bill or Trump?
Your dishonesty in pretending to not understand how believing one accuser and not another is baffling, especially considering the similarity. What flavor of kool-aid leads to these level of delusions? Gotta be fruit punch.
Letās ask Jeffry Epstein.
I just explained to you why I believe Trump and not Bill. Why would a guy with a history sleeping with models (all of whom are highly satisfied by their own admission) go out of his way to rape a 13 year old? Itās not instep with his past history.
Did you read the case? Itās not that he forcabily raped her, it was the fact that she was 13.
It is exactly in line with his history of throwing parties with Jeffry Epstein and sleeping with the women there.
Iām not saying he is a child rapist, the timing of the claim in questionable, and like any high profile person there will always be people making claims to try and get money. But by your logic, he is guilty of the accusation.
Edit: Or do we need to change the logic to be āif accused of rape you are guiltyā¦ Unless you support a nativist immigration platform, then everything else doesnāt matter because we need to get rid of those brown peopleā
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āThere was never a trial so stop mentioning due processā is an, um, interesting way of brushing aside the concept of āinnocent until proven guiltyā here. So basically as long as we DONāT have a trial, we can just assume whatever we want?
Cool. I think Trump is guilty of sacrificing live puppies by burning them alive and eating their flesh. Thereās never been a trial, so due process doesnāt matter; heās just guilty because I think itās in line with his history.
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Its definitely Orange Kool-Aid.
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You see incapable of following an argument. I think Bill is likely guilty due to his long history of sexual misconduct.
Who talks like this? You must have some weird xenophilic fetishes.
haha THAT must be it, not the enormous flaw in your logic in regards to ignoring due process.
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