This is pretty much it. There’s a deeper philosophical difference between liberals and conservatives that underlies all this. Regardless of policy area - environment, healthcare, education, immigration - liberals are willing to accept a reduction in their own personal quality of life if it benefits the common good. Conservatives are primarily motivated by their own self interest. Socialism on one side of the spectrum and laissez faire capitalism on the other. I think either extreme is dangerous… it’s a matter of finding the right balance.
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I’m not sure what Trump’s motivation is for the deregulation of things like environmental protection, but I kind of see it as a big government/small government thing. It’s not that the Republicans are against clean air and water, they just don’t want the Federal government regulating those things. It should be left to state and local governments. Don’t forget a large portion of Republicans are hunters and I’d wager they care more about environmental management than most people.
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Which begs the question, why do they really want local governments regulating those things? Because the whole big government argument holds no water when we look at the modern day Republican Party and its selective embracing of big government projects and regulation.
There was a recent survey done which found most hunters and anglers vote republican or independent but that they also supported the Clean Water Act.
I don’t agree, @ntrojnky…
Conservatives appear to play a “want my cake and eat it too” game when it comes to Environmental Regulation. They seem to be oblivious to the fact that these clean, wide-open rivers, mountains, lakes and mountain ranges that they enjoy come about as result of a fair amount of regulation and oversight.
(You want an idea of what happens without regulation? Take a look at any number of highly polluted Chinese provinces; or the U.S. history of toxic dumping that have left whole areas uninhabitable and/or extremely dangerous to even live near).
I also think that regulation of large Corporations (which often have not only a national but international footprint) would be completely 1) ineffective and 2) unevenly enforced if done on the state…and certainly the local…level.
Something else to consider is that although most hunters are republican or independent, most republicans are not hunters. Mitch McConnell, Lyndsey Graham? They don’t look like they’ve seen the sun in decades.
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Yep…
Probably spent a lot of time with Black Hookers in those Kentucky Cat Houses…
I might have stated that wrong, because I agree that unfortunately the Republicans are guilty of expanding government as well these days rather than decreasing it. What I wonder is if Trump, rather than the Republicans in general, is trying to decrease government with deregulation.
I believe the founding fathers designed the federal government to handle only a small number of things, national defense, military readiness, etc. And wanted local government to handle the rest.
I don’t disagree that local governments could drop the ball on regulating those things, just speculating as to what the motivation might be.
Ha ha, thank you for starting my Monday with a good laugh!
Why did trump and his base get very upset and stop the state when California passed a bill to enforce stricter emissions standards than federally regulated?
I thought they liked states rights?
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Because deregulate really means to regulate differently.
I don’t know what they like, my meeting with Trump was cancelled because I wouldn’t investigate who pooped on the resolute desk, so I never got the chance to ask him.
As for me, I’m merely speculating.
I’m not disagreeing. Can we agree both parties do this crap?
No. Both parties have their particular set of hypocrisies.
Ummm…that’s the same thing isn’t it?
I didn’t poop on the desk, but I did upper deck the first toilet!
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I thought you were referring to regulation, not hypocrisy in general.
Ok I just consulted some of my trusted conservative news sources on Trump blocking California emissions policy. No one seems to agree with it. Which lines up with my saying conservatives WANT the states to regulate these things. I have no idea why Trump was blocking it.
And fyi Lev Parnas said you DID poop on the desk on 60 minutes last night. He’s credible.
I don’t know what I was referring to at this point. I like you better when your calling other people retards.
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It’s “in” to hate on anything a liberal is doing. The base eats that shit up. Don’t overthink the motivations. Pols are pretty straightforward
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Doesn’t seem to be many conservatives left in the Republican party. Which is sad.
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