I think low IQ people could be the next great frontier for left-wing identity politics. The road is already paved with terms like âableistâ and all of the âreasoningâ that goes into identity politics as we know it today. It is, after all, a short rhetorical hop to get from âWhite Privilegeâ to âCognitive Privilegeâ.
That isnât to say that there are real concerns for low IQ people that are incumbent on high IQ people to address. This is just to say that left-wing cognitive justice warriors, should they ever emerge, should be ignored and left where they belong. Howling at the moon on the internet, where their toxic ideas are being increasingly ridiculed.
This is already the case if you look at public schools and inclusive classrooms. The irony is that a policy which appears to address a question of equality is actually racist.
Good paragraph from that article.
But much of this correlation is due to street-level petty and violent offenses, not mass murder, and it would be abhorrentâobscene, evenâto suggest that people with a low IQ should be treated with suspicion, or as murderers-in-waiting. In almost all cases, these individuals pose a risk to no one but themselves, and are more likely to fall prey to victimization by others. On the other hand, it is equally irresponsible to ignore the specific difficulties which those with a low IQ face. The consequences of this wishful thinkingâhowever noble in intentâcan be devastating.
Iâve worked with enough truly dumb people to know that the best you can do is keep them occupied and relatively safe and hope for the best.
Donât give them chainsaws or blow torches and expect anything other than catastrophe. And for gods sake keep them the fuck away from cranes.
Oooh ooh, you use blow torches?! Can I try? Oooh oooh.
Itâs funny, just a personal reflection here, my initial reaction was to suggest the use of âcognitive inequalityâ to describe the situation is a poor way to phrase it. A divisive way, really. It initially implied, to me, that those with higher/greater cognitive abilities are somehow holding those with lower abilities back. Much like the implications of income inequality, racial inequality, etc⊠Basically, my reaction was that of @twojarslave
If we ignore the social justice undertones, itâs a fine way to put it I suppose and itâs a growing problem. There are almost no jobs a person can do with a sub-80 IQ. The military wonât even take them. As technology continues to become more and more advanced so too will the need for a higher IQ to work. Something like 10% of the US population has a sub-80 IQ (32 millionâŠ). Thatâs a bit concerning.
Without a waiverâŠ
That is not as bad as it looks if you think of it as being spread evenly across the nation, which it isnât. Whatâs bad is that some populations have a much higher percentage of low IQ people, and no one wants to admit it and deal with it properly. There are schools in which almost half the students are diagnosed as special ed. These same students will be placed in AP and honors courses because everyone deserves to go to college.
NO!
I donât think theyâll even give them a waiver for such a low IQ (ASVAB score). I could be wrong, we always joked about such and such being an ASVAB waiver, but I didnât think it was a real thing.
Iâm finally in the 1%!
Ok not really, but maybe upper middle class?!
When I was in Basic, there was one private whose ASVAB score was technically too low for any MOS. I was in training to be an MP and when he told me his score I was thinking it couldnât be right. It turns out he was actually going to be an 88 mike and was only with us for the first phase of Basic. His score was still too low but they were desperate for truck drivers.
This story was arguing for such a thing, no doubt.This story was certainly edging for a welfare system to prop up the âcognitively disadvantagedâ while railing on incessantly about the lack of easy manual labor jobs when thatâs a bunch of horseshit. Right now, the challenge is finding enough people to fill the majority of jobs that exist without the need for a college education.
The author proposed a solution while looking at only one aspect of a problem.
The fact that low IQ correlates with mental disorder, if in fact true, means only that they correlate. Heâs inferring the causation part when in fact it could be the opposite, the majority of people with mental disorders have a resultant low IQ. Or there could be a million other things going on.
There is one thing I know about stupid is Ron White is right. âYou canât fix stupid.â Calling it an âinequalityâ carryâs with it the baggage of bigotry. That some evil smart people decided to keep people dumb because they hate dumb people or want to manipulate dumb people.
Thereâs nothing we can do about cognitive ability. Even Eugenics doesnât have a good answer. Cognition is a crap-shoot under the most positive of circumstances.
This is an imaginary problem which requires nothing whatsoever from me.
Whatâs next? Blue eyeâd people tend to be prettier so we have eye color inequality? I am sure we can do a study that would back that shit up with data. Rate eye-color with attractiveness and blue-eyed attractiveness having the perponderance of money and power in a given place and viola, we have an inequality that needs fixing.
That number sounds a bit low⊠Or people tend to act dumber than they actually are. Weâve already dumbed down school and sports, why the fuck not dumb down the entire countryâŠ
I donât think it was arguing that at all. It was pointing a reality that we will have to soon face. The thing about those âeasyâ manual labor jobs is that people with low IQs canât even do them, especially as they have become relatively more sophisticated. Then you have automation.
Genetics do play a part in IQ.
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Calling it stupid doesnât carry with it the baggage of bigotry? And it is an inequality as not all people have equal IQs.
For those who are low IQ, and those who work with them or have them as family members or go to school with them, it is not imaginary.
No, that would be green eyed people.
I donât think that study would work out the way you think. Try doing it in China and see what your results are.
At the moment, the struggle is to place high skill work, as our current unemployed workforce is FILLED with low/unskilled individuals, but struggling to find skilled labor, as most of them are already employed.
I think some people assume that because a job doesnât require a college education it must be so simple that any dummy can do it.
I used to run into that a lot cutting trees. Although legitimately, we did have a couple of guys that were actually below 100, they werenât allowed to use chainsaws, absolutely not allowed to use the stump grinder, couldnât work the chipper, etc. Basically just clean up and loading logs.
The flip side was that virtually everything we did and used could kill someone even on a good day. If you arenât all least a little bit smart something bad is going to happen and it will most likely be permanent and/or fatal.
One of the glaring assumptions in that article is that no one is looking out for these poor dumb people. Quite literally everywhere Iâve ever worked there was âthat guyâ. He was the guy that the foreman or supervisor would quietly point out and tell you " Look out for him. He isnât very sharp and sometimes screws things up.". But the look out wasnât a warning, it was a decent way of saying keep him safe. The answer for why heâs even there is always the same too. âHeâs good for some stuff, and he has to make a living somehow.â. I think that what the author doesnât know is that outside of academia and the world of post grad degrees, a lot of people are charitably employed and there is a sense of sympathy for people that arenât too sharp.
The study doesnât work out period. The premise is bullshit at best.
We cannot âequalizeâ made-up inequality.
Some people are smarter than others. Some people are nicer than others. Some people eat fecal matter⊠not every supposed âinequalityâ requires somebody to fix it.
People are not born equal in talent or gifts. Thatâs just too bad.
Looking for inequality where it need not exist is a disability. Itâs a fight with no end. You want all people to be equal then all people need to be the same.
I say people have the right to be dumb or smart without somebody else trying to fix them.
Used to work at a prison and can confirm this.