The China Study

[quote]John M Berardi wrote:
Not trying to poach traffic here but we’re having a rather lengthy chat over on the PN Forums right now about the China Study.

Here’s the link:
Member Zone | Move | Update - Precision Nutrition [/quote]

How awesome! I was wondering if everyone over at PN had touched on this, and then the man himself shows up and puts it out there - thanks Dr. B!

The article referenced a study called “Dietary whey protein protects against azoxymethane-induced colon tumors in male rats.”

Exactly how am I supposed to interpret these results? That Whey protects against cancer, or that it is less carcinogenic than casein?

[quote]NewDamage wrote:
100% of the experimental group animals (those with 20% of their daily calorie intake coming from casein) developed liver cancer.

0% of the animals who derived 5% of their daily calories from casein developed liver cancer.[/quote]

This 0-vs-100 thing doesn’t sound right to me. Reality is almost never “all or nothing”.

[quote]Miserere wrote:
An interesting discussion on Amazon.com regarding how misleading this book really is:

http://www.amazon.com/Colin-Campbell-Doesnt-China-Study/forum/Fx1YJPR95OHW08P/Tx3QD9DFF9KLKFN/1/

Another well-informed rebuttal:

It appears that The China Study is nothing more than lies-through-statistics to convert people to veganism.

Be strong, eat meat, and prosper.[/quote]

Vegetarians tend to be more docile and controllable. This is all part of the Illuminati’s plan…

:smiley:

Here’s a good, thorough whipping of The China Study on the BeyondVeg website (link posted by JB in his site):

The problem with books like this is that experts (and not-so-experts) will quickly realise they’re full of shit and misleading, but the general public won’t. Just look at the reviews on Amazon.com to see how many vegetarians are gleefully jumping around, thinking they’ve been justified, and worse still, how many normal people are saying they’re becoming vegetarians after reading the book.

[quote]Miserere wrote:
Here’s a good, thorough whipping of The China Study on the BeyondVeg website (link posted by JB in his site):

The problem with books like this is that experts (and not-so-experts) will quickly realise they’re full of shit and misleading, but the general public won’t. Just look at the reviews on Amazon.com to see how many vegetarians are gleefully jumping around, thinking they’ve been justified, and worse still, how many normal people are saying they’re becoming vegetarians after reading the book.[/quote]

Few things are more dangerous than research with an agenda.

DJ

[quote]djreef wrote:
Few things are more dangerous than research with an agenda.

DJ[/quote]

Yeah, the problem is there is very little research that doesn’t have an agenda, one way or the other. Most of the money for studies comes from private companies, and it’s clear they will want results that back up company policy.

Maybe a Socialist government funding research would make sense… But that’s a discussion for another thread and forum :slight_smile:

I was really wondering about this. Humans are designed to eat meat. Loins have always been eating meat, they do not have high risks of cancer? thats all loins eat, never seen them growing soy plants and eating those. It makes completely no sense that eating the meat would be bad.

My loins don’t exactly eat meat…