The Bush Conservative Dictionary

Off Topic Politics and World Issues
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[quote]deanec wrote:
Here is another view on the war from a soldier on the ground. Read the whole thing, it is worth it.

Dean

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/05/breaking2453389.0680555557.html[/quote]

We could spend eternity discussing what is going on in Iraq and we’d never get anywhere, even if we were all there. Our ability to see whatever we want and believe whatever we want to believe is unlimited.

We can’t even agree on how much money we spent or are spending there.

Because if we could, what I’d like to see is a cost/benefit analysis. With the amount of tax I pay every year, I’d honestly like to know if it’s being invested properly and we’re actually somehow benefiting from it or if it’s just being used for this egomanical idea that everyone has to have a “democracy” like “ours”.

Which is not even “ours”, since our Government system was copied over 200 years ago from - surprise! - the French…

My hope is that, as Churchill once said: “Americans always do the right thing - after they’ve tried everything else”.

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It’s not a lie if you believe it.

-------George Costanza.

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blah,blah,blah, insert partisan political rant here, yakkitty,yackitty,yackitty.
Joke

How many threads do we realy need to pitch the same old bitches?
punchline- ALL of them!
HEY, thats not very funny.
Thats cause its not a fucking joke!
Back to our regularly scheduled program already in progress…

BLAH!BLAH!BLAH!(even louder this time)

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[quote]hspder wrote:
I’m not affiliated to any of the US parties.
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Then please get the fuck out.

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[quote]Garrett W. wrote:
hspder wrote:
I’m not affiliated to any of the US parties.

Then please get the fuck out.[/quote]

Now, is that what you tell all your Asians role models, the ones that are so much better and more successful than all those lazy Blacks, because they are so courageous and so bravely enter that high-risk market that are Chinese Restaurants?

After all, it’s a known fact most Asia-born people who now live in this country not only don’t have a political affiliation, they either won’t or can’t vote.

How’s that for a stereotype?

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[quote]hspder wrote:
Which is not even “ours”, since our Government system was copied over 200 years ago from - surprise! - the French…
[/quote]

Yeah, but the French fuck everything up - except for goose livers, and wine. But give them time and they’ll figure out a way to fuck that up too.

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hspder

What are you talking about dude?

The US system, if it copied anything, was based on Greek Democracy from the previous millenium.

Do you realize that at the time France had a monarchy and the French Revolution happened some 20 years after the American Revolution.

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[quote]Garrett W. wrote:
hspder wrote:
I’m not affiliated to any of the US parties.

Then please get the fuck out.[/quote]

Wow. That was just a joke, right?

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
hspder wrote:
Which is not even “ours”, since our Government system was copied over 200 years ago from - surprise! - the French…

Yeah, but the French fuck everything up - except for goose livers, and wine. But give them time and they’ll figure out a way to fuck that up too.
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LOL! Thank you for that, I needed a good laugh!

It’s so wrong of me to say this, but you know, I have to work with French people every day and if I think about it you’re actually probably right…

However, I’m not convinced that the system wasn’t already screwed up before we copied it, but that’s a whole different discussion…

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[quote]hedo wrote:
The US system, if it copied anything, was based on Greek Democracy from the previous millenium.
[/quote]

No, it’s quite different from the Greek system. Read it up and you’ll know what I mean. I’m not BB so I won’t be quoting 100,000 lines of text here, including the 100 texts written by conservative guys reminding everybody that technically our system is not a Democracy at least not in the purest sense of the word (and hence Democrats are Evil).

[quote]
Do you realize that at the time France had a monarchy and the French Revolution happened some 20 years after the American Revolution.[/quote]

Actually it was in 1792, so it’s 16 years.

I didn’t say that the French had the system up and running at the time of the US Independence. They came up with the system we later adopted, they just took longer to implement it than we did.

The whole thing got started much before that. It’s not like you come up with a new goverment model overnight.

Even over here it took a while to implement - GW was only elected president in 1788…

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[quote]hspder wrote:
ZEB wrote:
hspder:

Congratulations for starting another Bush hate thread. This one seems to be turning on you in a most entertaining way (at least to me).

Why, because the way it turned out was so predictable? :slight_smile:

That reminds of any another couple of entries in your dictionary:

Provocation - Something that Liberals do on purpose all the time, hence it must be Evil; Liberals go as far as claiming Conservatives also do it all the time, but Conservatives do not believe they are, so they must be incorrect (see TRUTH)

Humor - See ABSTRACT[/quote]

hspder:

Sorry I couldn’t get back to you sooner, I was watching the inauguration. Dang…that was good. Did you happen to watch it? :slight_smile:

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[quote]Ursus wrote:
I think US media is graphic enough, thank you very much. I don’t need to see all the suffering to know it’s happening. I know it is called War is Hell for many reasons.

Do you think that maybe the European media shows all that stuff in an effort to affect you emotionally? Perhaps to inititiate negative emotion against the war? hmm? And isn’t it true that this war is generally oppossed by most Europeans (Old Europeans? hehe!) and by their governments? And so, couldn’t those media, by feeding those negative stories, be giving you, a: exactly what the people want, ie meeting market demands, and or b: exactly what their governments would like the people to see? [/quote]

I would like to take this sub-topic of the media’s portrayal of the war further. You are right, the European media probably does try to put a negative bias onto its coverage of the war, although I wouldn’t really know, as I reside in Japan at the moment. Japan is, at least at a government level, supporting the war, and coverage here is pretty balanced, I think. I have cable, however,and lots of different news channels, so I believe I am getting a clearer picture than most of you in America. I receive American CNN and Fox, and let me tell you, the war is romanticised by those channels. Soldiers standing nobly against the sunset. Jets taking off from carriers. The launch of cruise missles. Generals talking about how ‘Objective X’ has been achieved and lauding the effectiveness of smart-bomb technology. War is often represented as a video game. Then I flip to the BBC. Mutilated bodies. People wailing because their loved ones are dead. Children with half their faces burned off. The US media doesn’t show these things.

What is the image most people remember regarding the Vietnam War? I was too young to remember it happening at the time, but there is that classic picture of the naked girl running down the street, her skin burning with Napalm. It has become an indelible part of history.
This image played a key part in galvanising public support against the Vietnam War in America. Now, these sorts of images are not allowed to be shown. If they had been shown, I’m sure many Americans would have changed their stance on the war. This censorship may have even helped protect Bush’s presidency.

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[quote]hspder wrote:
hedo wrote:
The US system, if it copied anything, was based on Greek Democracy from the previous millenium.

No, it’s quite different from the Greek system. Read it up and you’ll know what I mean. I’m not BB so I won’t be quoting 100,000 lines of text here, including the 100 texts written by conservative guys reminding everybody that technically our system is not a Democracy at least not in the purest sense of the word (and hence Democrats are Evil).

Do you realize that at the time France had a monarchy and the French Revolution happened some 20 years after the American Revolution.

Actually it was in 1792, so it’s 16 years.

I didn’t say that the French had the system up and running at the time of the US Independence. They came up with the system we later adopted, they just took longer to implement it than we did.

The whole thing got started much before that. It’s not like you come up with a new goverment model overnight.

Even over here it took a while to implement - GW was only elected president in 1788…
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Hspdr

Read up on it…what are you talking about. Did you ever study history or are you currently a student?

The French Revolution, do you understand the impetus for that event was the AMERICAN REVOLUTION.

Yes a government after a revolution kind of “just happens”, hence the term revolution. Don’t just watch the movie, read the book.

Just so I understand what you are saying…you are trying to infer that the US founding fathers copied a system the French were developing but didn’t actually implement for 16 years because they had to get it up and running.

That is too funny. Please make sense or I will soon loose interest in refuting you.

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[quote]hedo wrote:
Please make sense or I will soon loose interest in refuting you.
[/quote]

A pig will fly through the frozen gates of hell before you get what you asked for.

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Yeah, right on about the Asian folk. However, I’m impressed that you did read that post and make note of that.

Now on a more different note… I took it that by saying “I’m not aligned with any US parties.” You were implying that you belonged/supported/associated with another party for a different country. And I inferred that it was some sort of shady, downgrade on America. I think there is almost nothing worse than someone enjoying the benefits of this country only to downgrade it and promote how much better it is somewhere else.

Now if this wasn’t the case. I apologize. Maybe it could be more properly stated: “I don’t belong to any political parties.” But leaving the door open to support foreign politcal parties seems a little off kilter when you can’t find a group in your homeland, or attempt to start, that identifies with your causes.

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[quote]Garrett W. wrote:
I think there is almost nothing worse than someone enjoying the benefits of this country only to downgrade it and promote how much better it is somewhere else.
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I never did that. I never, for once, said “how much better it is somewhere else”. I’ve lived in Europe for 3 years and had plenty of opportunity to stay if it were.

And if I would never consider living for the long term anywhere else in the world by over here in California, USA, it’s precisely because I believe there is no better place to live in.

The fact that I criticise the parties in this country and sometimes espouse ideas that I say were better implemented abroad should in no way be interpreted as downgrading the country and its people as a whole!

I just do not have tunnel vision and consider that the polical landscape of the US encompasses all possibilities and has done everything possible to make this country an even better place to live…

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
A pig will fly through the frozen gates of hell before you get what you asked for.
[/quote]

Wise words, my friend! :slight_smile: You’re starting to know me very well, I see! :slight_smile:

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Catastrophic Success - an ugly or slight victory (ex: The Steelers win over the Jets was a “catastrophic success.”)

Deception - business as usual

Trickle Down - telling you it’s raining while they’re pissing down your back

Spreading Freedom (also see “spreading democracy” and “liberation”) - blowing shit up then setting up a “puppet government”

Puppet Government - pre-selected officials put in office after we blow shit up

WMD - Who’s My Daddy?

Mistake - N/A

Reality - what we make up

Diplomacy - when countries agree with our policies

Scrap Metal - armor

RPG - Rumsfeld Promised Gear

Nuclar - dangerous substance countries with oil seem to possess

Insurgent - angry, displaced civilian

Fallujah - large flat area, future site of Wal-Mart, McDonald’s and Wawa’s

Iran - who’s next

Osama bin Laden (also see ‘Boogie Man’) - Bearded, mystical, elusive character, plays bit part in the continuing saga of “The War on Terror”. At one time held the lead role eventually losing it to Saddam Hussein. Although he continues to only play a small part, his appearance and impeccable timing are crucial in deflecting the attention of the populace and keeping them on edge during times of serious political scrutiny.

Just Released!
(“Best of bin Laden” 2001-2004 DVD box set, including exclusive interviews and bonus clips from 1994. As an added bonus, we take you behind the scenes with outtakes and bloopers of real beheadings)

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Liberal - one who knows what’s best for you and feels that you should just shut up and take it. See Clinton, Hilary under Bitch, Ball-busting.

Or: one who is ‘outraged’ that a Chilean dictator had around 3,000 or so lefties off, innocent to a man to be sure, while showing extremely slight discomfort over decades of Commie ‘excesses’ that murdered tens of millions. Apparently 300,000 lives that got in the way are not quite enough to cover one building a socialist paradise in no need of any further elections way down south.

Conservative- one taking the blame for pointing out the obvious- that liberals don’t solve problems, they only leave us with worse trade-offs. To your standard liberal conservative means racist, homophobe, reactionary, mean-spirited one, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah.

Truth- what liberals claim to know but in fact are deathly allergic to.

Lie- a thing liberals dispense freely and with no apparent shame to demostrate intimate knowledge with a greater ‘truth.’

Fact- something a liberal need not bother with, since he knows everthing.
Editor’ note- oops, sorry as not to offend any liberal senses, I should have used she, not he. For shame!

Proof- Something in the mind of a liberal a conservative, by definition, can’t ever have enough of to show his innocence or make his case.

Incompetence- liberalism in action. See: Vietnam, Iran hostage fiasco, forced busing, welfare policies, urban renewal, mass transit, education policy, criminal justice, etc, etc, ad nauseam.

Wrong- something liberals maintain convicted criminals never did and conservatives always do.

Right- me of course, as in I always am.

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Catastrophic success- an oxymoron, but under Catastrophic failure see Kerry campaign and accompanying efforts by left wing whiners like MoveOn.org.

Deception- politics, not business, as usual.

Trickle down- A term made up by Democrats when the Gipper was pissing all over them on a daily basis.

Spreading Freedom- what happens when you ignore the chattering class and soon to be useless idiots and have the stones to fight and win the Cold War. For further reference consult Eastern Europeans.

Puppet Government- the kind run by dictators that Democrats appeased to.

WMD- a personal problem of JTF’s.

Mistake- the Kerry Campaign, and Democrats foreign policy since the mid 60’s

Reality- the election results of 2004- a serious bitch-slapping of the left.

Diplomacy- to the left, relenting to the whims of a corrupt, vane, declining has-been with a serious Muslim problem. See France

Scrap metal- Soviet equipment rendered obsolete by superior Yankee gear, the product of a capitalist (and therefore better) society.

Nuclar- a word that gets liberal beds wet.

Insurgent- angry, displaced civilian from Jordan who likes to blow up Iraqi children. His name starts with a Z…

Fallujah- Graveyard for many followers of previously mentioned insurgent. Nice guys all, as most former Baathists were known by their neighbors to be.

Iran- after Vietnam, the Donkey Party’s biggest foreign policy victory. See Carter, Jimmy. See also Hostage Crisis and fucked up rescue attempt.

Osama bin Laden- poor downtrodden Arab from humble means who would have been nice to us if we would have listened to his nuanced ‘root causes’ clap-trap.

Just The Facts- a moniker for one who’s posts are devoid of any.

When you fling it at others, try not to throw like a girl- you end up getting it on yourself.

In fun, Schrauper