“I think highly unlikely there will be an advantage in muscular gain compared to a less extreme approach.”
I guess this is where the factors come in. I mean if a 6’2 guy is starting out at 140lbs I strongly believe he should focus on gaining a pound per week and progressing in his main lifts and he will see greater results than worrying about leanness. Granted his diet isn’t entirely shit. When I gained weight I honestly didnt get to a noticeable level of bf until I hit 195lbs. But if the guy is 6’ 200 to begin with then I believe he could put less emphasis on adding weight and more on getting stronger with weight gain as a side effect. So many factors man [/quote]
The more manageable way to do things is to set calories for a particular goal, say 10 to 15% above maintenance, or whatever someone judges to be suitable increase, and see what happens. If it works, then continue. If not, change something.
This whole notion of poundage goal is shoddy because it doesn’t take into account how the body is reacting into real body composition. Goals like, “I’m gonna hit 250” or “I’m not gonna start dieting until I hit 300” are extremely haphazard because they indicate a goal irrespective of what’s going on with muscular and fat gain.
I guess a really young, underweight, untrained guy can get away for awhile with the “pound per week” goal til he starts getting a bit too fat. But I can’t see this going well past the 6 month mark or so.
AND AGAIN, it comes down to what the person wants to do! If the person doesn’t mind a 1:1 fat/muscle gain, then they can just do that.
AND AGAIN, I’ll probably get hit on here because even though I respect people’s “full house” and all-out bulk preferences, my writing will usually interpreted as if I don’t. [/quote]
Like I said just my opinon. I think it worked for me cause I was really skinny, young, and didn’t care about the fat gain. For me the poundage goal was a good idea. It’s just how my mind works to have a concrete goal to work towards. However, that does not mean I don’t change things up if there is a necessity to do so. I didn’t start eating 4200 calories a day. I just slowly and gradually started to eat more. I honestly didn’t even legitimately start counting calories until I hit 185lbs and didn’t start counting macros until I hit 195. Adjusting macros and counting calories helped me get from 195 to 225 with less fat gain than if I hadn’t of counted though.
You gained 84 lbs and look like that? What makes you think that taking it slower would not have been better? I mean you have no real muscle mass/def. and you are cutting.
Please post a photo or point to a thread you have posted a photo or video in so we can compare.