# The 80:20

Who the fuck approved this as a rule? It’s just a calculation of wealth distribution among social classes long ago in Italy. Yes, another Italian thinker.

You can just use it to conclude that 20% of what you do will deliver the big 80% of results.

This “rule” has been mentioned in several posts as a defence to attacking curls and other isolation movements.

For this Sunday session, I thought and decided to concentrate on 2 movements, approving for the afternoon:

1. Military Press
2. Dumbell Hammer Curls + Dumbell Pronated Press (combined into 1 movement).
(In that order of course)

This exercise election would be close to the 80:20 distribution of results.

Shortly before my workout I was feeling more energized than when I selected to do the first 2, so I switched to a new selection:

1. Back Squats
2. Military Press
(Yes, in that order)

Now this new selection does not appear to me to be close to 80:20. More like 75:25 - 65:35.

It could be a different evaluation of routines.

Will it be useful to give it a second to calculate the predicted results after a workout and tracking what distributions repeatedly are best? Maybe I will if tomorrow I keep think this idea is interesting.

Good luck with your lifting, everyone.

what the fuck does this mean… or am i retarded?

[quote]bignate wrote:
what the fuck does this mean… or am i retarded?[/quote]

I don’t think OP quite grasps the Pareto Principle…

Never mind

What kind of traps do you build?

One of my first jobs was building commercial crab traps. I used to get high a lot making those. One guy did coke off of the anvil once.

One thing is for sure-- trap builders know how to party.

[quote]bignate wrote:
what the fuck does this mean… or am i retarded?[/quote]

It’s just some thoughts, sorry if I’m not asking questions.

Instead of using the so called 80:20 rule to bash isolation movements (even with free weights this happens), deviating from these numbers could help select exercises according to your sspecific hypertrophy desires.

Cheers.

[quote]bignate wrote:
or am i retarded?[/quote]

No, but I genuinely suspect that OP is

This fucking guy man…

Everything he posts just confuses the hell out of me.

Lol What is the 80% based off of? In other words, what do you consider 100%?

Honestly I don’t quite have a deep grasp of the concept. All that I learned in school from it (last year), is that if the world was divided into 100 cookies, 2 people would get 80 and the other 8 would get 20. Seriously, we actually distributed cookies and stuff. It was like the double stuffed oreos. I remember becuase I was one of the two people that got the 80 cookies. It tasted amazing… What were we talking about?

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
What kind of traps do you build?

One of my first jobs was building commercial crab traps. I used to get high a lot making those. One guy did coke off of the anvil once.

One thing is for sure-- trap builders know how to party.[/quote]
Hahahahaha

OP: props for starting threads. Use whatever distribution you think will helo you reach your goals the fastest.

The Pareto principle is not a rule, it’s a general observation. 80% / 20% are not definite numbers, they’re an estimate.

From wikipedia: “There is nothing special about the number 80% mathematically, but many real systems have k somewhere around this region of intermediate imbalance in distribution.”

In a nutshell, it means that a majority of the results will come from a minority of the people / effort / investment / whatever. I have no idea where the hell your numbers came from, but trying to apply the principle in any sort of exact way when it comes to lifting is beyond retarded.

OP, you worry about tiny shit WAY too much for someone of your level. KISS. That is all.

I use Marx`s classical class analysis when I make my excercise selection.

Curls and similar are burgeois excercises, while squats, deads etc are my proletarien excercises.

[quote]hanban wrote:

LOL. Point taken.

I never meant a terrible thread uncovering a long won battle: isolation exercises are useful.
You can see if you read my original post.

I should have predicted though that most of us aren’t ready to discuss that sort of claim when we do need the basics as well as isolation.

[quote]florelius wrote:
I use Marx`s classical class analysis when I make my excercise selection.

Curls and similar are burgeois excercises, while squats, deads etc are my proletarien excercises.

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[quote]florelius wrote:
I use Marx`s classical class analysis when I make my excercise selection.

Curls and similar are burgeois excercises, while squats, deads etc are my proletarien excercises.

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That is hilarious/awesome/true.

I heard someone use this saying to describe their diet on the radio this morning.
Log in to T-Nation and someone is using it to set up their exercise selection.

All I can think is that it must have been mentioned on Jersey Shore or The Kardashions and now every tool-box thinks they found a secret weapon.

[quote]florelius wrote:
I use Marx`s classical class analysis when I make my excercise selection.

Curls and similar are burgeois excercises, while squats, deads etc are my proletarien excercises.
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Yeah, no kidding.

I am going to use Einstein’s, “Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted” , saying to found a fitness movement. The mainstay of the movement will be to keep a journal counting what counts. It will be revolutionary!

Clearly the OP would be better off using the Fibonacci sequence