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'That's So Gay!'


"Every first-year anthropology student learns that group cohesion is maintained by defining in-group and out-group behavior. If a group cannot define itself in these terms, it disappears. (For example, homosexuals use the derogatory term "breeders" to refer to us.)

You're not homophobic. This campaign is a rearguard action in a war on your sexual identity. Gay Pride apparently is OK but heterosexuals cannot uphold their identity. I'm here to tell you, "Bend over no more."

Until 1975, homosexuality was considered a developmental disorder. Therapists thought it a major neurosis, a sexual perversion and even a physical illness. Then the Rockefellers yanked the American Psychological Association's chain and magically, overnight, what for centuries had been abnormal, suddenly was normal.

This is part of a larger attack on gender and marriage designed to decrease population and undermine the family. In the bankers' New World Order, children are born to single mothers or in laboratories and raised by the state to serve the bankers.

Do you really think the Rockefellers, who financed Eugenics for a century, including Mengele's heinous experiments in Auschwitz, care about homosexuals' feelings? No, they are trying to turn you into homosexuals. They want you to suffer from this disorder. That's why you are learning in school that homosexuality is normal .That's why they use psychological war (guilt) to level your heterosexual defenses.

This isn't about equality and human rights. It's about social engineering and mind control. It's about depopulation and dictatorship."



Don't forget Rockefellers also financed the "Women's Rights" movement, as they only had half of the nation paying taxes and spending money.


Lol, back to the evil banker conspiracy theory. Do you really believe this stuff, HH?


"In 1969 the Vice President of Planned Parenthood, Frederick Jaffe, drew up a chart based on Davis' ideas. The chart listed 33 "Proposed Measures to Reduce U.S. Fertility." These included: fertility control agents in water supply; encourage increased homosexuality; permits for children; compulsory abortion and sterilization; and discouragement of home ownership.

Also in 1969, the United Nations set up the UN Fund for Population Activities (UNFPA) to help coordinate fertility limitation programs worldwide. UNFPA has been a leading agent in the global push for the anti-population agenda. It has even been instrumental in training and assisting the Chinese in their barbaric one-child population program, which includes forced abortions, sterilization and infanticide.

Planned Parenthood International continues to fulfil Sangerâ??s vision. Mary S. Calderone, head of the Sex Information and Education Council (SIECUS) and former president and medical director of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, once said: "We have yet to beat the drum for birth control in the way we beat them for polio vaccine, we are still unable to put babies in the class of dangerous epidemics, even though this is the exact truth." Warren Hern, abortionist and an author in Planned Parenthood's journal Family Planning Perspectives, wrote an article entitled "Is Pregnancy Normal?" in which he said: "[Pregnancy] may be defined as a disease â?¦ [and] ... treated by evacuation of the uterine contents."

All of these gay rights groups are backed by huge foundation money, Rockefeller's being the worst:

"The Rockefeller Foundation, to this day, continues to provide significant support to Planned Parenthood. The International PP Medical Bulletin, for example, is primarily underwritten by the Foundation and is even linked to the Rockefeller Foundation website. The Foundation has also sponsored New York Universityâ??s Margaret Sanger Papers Project. Most importantly, the Rockefellers determined the very tenure of U.S. and international discussions about birth control and abortion. First, through funding population research and control initiatives at prestigious universities, such as Harvard, Baylor, Case Western Reserve, Chicago, the University of Chile, Columbia, Cornell, Hacettepe University in Turkey, the University of Michigan, North Carolina, Princeton, Tulane and the University of Washington. And, second, through the establishment of the Population Council, the worldâ??s first truly global population control foundation."



I think that his pursuit of the perfect trolliloquy has taken him down a path that has stripped him of all actual belief.


Awesome. It's back...and with a new poster this time!


Yeah, it's tough being straight these days.


The only thing worse is being a white male. Straight white males are so persecuted!


Damn, this is great news. Can't wait to get my gay check from the Rockefeller Foundation! Just in time for summer vacation.


The CBS News/New York Times study found that 33 percent of respondents favor same-sex marriage. That represents a 9 point drop since April.

Everett Rice, legislative coordinator for the California Family Council, said he has a theory about the decrease.

"People really recognize their core and their values, their heritage," he said. "When people want to go in and redefine that, it really goes against everybody's individual cultural understanding."

California has been the site of many protests, some violent, since voters passed Proposition 8 in November. The measure defines marriage in the state Constitution as solely the union of one man and one woman â?? and has been met with outrage by many gay activists.

Gary Schneeberger, vice president of media and public relations for Focus on the Family Action, said the new poll numbers could very well represent a backlash from Americans who have seen several New England states legalize gay marriage through their legislatures, not the vote of the people."


Laugh dude, but try wearing a 'White Pride' T-shirt, or a 'Straight is Great!' T-shirt on a university campus. The Lesba-nazis or the NAMBLAs will try and kill you.


Being ghey is wrong. Enough said. I'd say White is right, but that's politically incorrect.


What does gay marriage have to do with my heritage or culture?


What's wrong with being gay?
Homosexual behavior versus the Bible

The issue of homosexual behavior has had a lot of publicity of late. Homosexuals say that the slaves have been freed and women have been liberated, so gay rights are long overdue. Society does seem to be moving in that direction. Many homosexuals are â??coming outâ?? and openly declaring their homosexuality. In many parts of the western world, homosexual couples receive the same recognition as heterosexual couples with regard to social security benefits. Some church leaders are giving their blessing to homosexual relationships, homosexual church members and even homosexual ministers.

Many homosexuals' claim thatâ?¦
They are made that way.

Homosexuality is of no harm to the participants or to anyone else.

If it feels right to those involved, it is nobody else's business.

Homosexual relationships and heterosexual relationships are equally valid. (Some even claim that the Bible condones homosexual relationships.)

Made that way?
Since other groups who have been discriminated against (such as women, blacks and the disabled) have been given equal opportunity, homosexuals claim that they, too, should be liberated. However, as one Christian expert has said â?¦

â??Gender, race and impairment all relate to what a person is, whereas homosexuality relates to what a person does.â??1

In contrast, homosexuals claim that scientific studies have shown that there is a biological basis for homosexuality.

Three main studies are cited by â??gay rightsâ?? activists in support of their argument2Hamer's X-chromosome research,3 LeVay's study of the hypothalamus,4 and Bailey and Pillard's study of identical twins who were homosexuals.5

In all three cases, the researchers had a vested interest in obtaining a certain outcome because they were homosexuals themselves. More importantly, their studies did not stand up to scientific scrutiny by other researchers. Also, â??the media typically do not explain the methodological flaws in these studies, and they typically oversimplify the resultsâ??.6 There is no reliable evidence to date that homosexual behavior is determined by a person's genes.

To the extent that biological or social factors may contribute to a person's bent toward homosexual behavior, this does not excuse it. Some people have a strong bent towards stealing or abuse of alcohol, but they still choose to engage or not engage in this behavior the law rightly holds them accountable.

The final report of the Baptist Union of Western Australia (BUWA) Task Force on Human Sexuality states â??that a person becomes a homosexual ultimately by choosing to be involved in same-sex activityâ?¦ This is in contrast to innate characteristics such as gender and ethnicity.â??7 The report affirms that â??the Bible is clear that sin involves choice, and it unequivocally condemns homosexual behavior as sin.â??7

The foundational teaching on marriage and sexual issues is found in Genesis chapters 1 and 2. When Jesus was questioned about marriage, He referred to these 2 chapters (Matthew 19:1-12; Mark 10:1-12). Genesis teaches us that â??male and female He created themâ?? (Genesis 1:27). We were created to a plan, male and female complementing each other. That is, God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, nor Madam and Eve.

Genesis also teaches that God instituted and designed marriage between a man and a woman (Genesis 2:18-25). There are a number of reasons why He did so.

The complementary structure of the male and female anatomy is obviously designed for the normal husband-wife relationships. Clearly, design in human biology supports heterosexuality and contradicts homosexuality.

The combination of male and female enables man (and the animals) to produce and nurture offspring as commanded in Genesis 1:28 â??Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth.â?? This command is repeated to Noah after the Flood (Genesis 8:15-17). But procreation is not the only reason God made humans as sexual beings. The BUWA report affirms â??that sexual intimacy between husband and wife is good, and is intended by God for bonding, pleasure and procreation.â??7

Thirdly, God gave man and woman complementary roles in order to strengthen the family unit. Woman was to be the helper that man needed (Genesis 2:18). However, the woman's role as the helpmate is certainly not an inferior one. The enterprising God-fearing woman in Proverbs 31:10-31 is an inspiring role model.

No harm?
Andrew Lansdown points out that 'homosexual activity is notoriously disease-prone. In addition to diseases associated with heterosexual promiscuity, homosexual actions facilitate the transmission of anal herpes, hepatitis B, intestinal parasites, Kaposi's Sarcoma and AIDS.'1 Research on the life expectancy of a group of homosexual men in Canada in the early 1990s indicated that they could expect 8-21 years less lifespan than other men.8

Effect on others
Secular psychologists assure us that 'children raised in lesbian and gay households are similar to children raised in heterosexual households on characteristics such as intelligence, development, moral judgments, self-concepts, social competence and gender identity'.6 The humanists have, however, forgotten one important ingredient.

â??Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from itâ?? (Proverbs 22:6).

You cannot faithfully teach God's Word to your children while living a lifestyle specifically condemned by God's Word. All Christians are sinners forgiven by God's grace, but living in a homosexual relationship constitutes habitual, unrepented sin.

Nobody else's business?
Gay activists claim that homosexual activity is nobody's business other than those involved in the relationship. However, this is not true. God, our Designer and Creator, has authority over all aspects of our lives. He makes the rules, and He quite specifically forbids homosexual behavior.

â??You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abominationâ?? (Leviticus 18:22; see also Leviticus 20:13).

Disobedience of such a clear command indicates rejection of God's authority.

Some people argue that the Old Testament law (including Leviticus 18 and 20) was superseded with the coming of Christ. However, we should at least consider as binding those aspects of the law that are renewed in the New Testament. The teaching of Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 was certainly reaffirmed in the New Testament.

Equally valid?
Some people claim that homosexual behavior was only condemned in the Bible because it was associated with idolatry (e.g. 1 Kings 14:24). However, it is clearly condemned apart from idolatry as well (e.g. Leviticus 18:22). It is described in Scripture as an unnatural, immoral perversion.

â??For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one anotherâ?¦â?? (Romans 1:26-27).

The Greek word arsenokoitai used in 1 Timothy 1:10 literally means â??men who sleep with men.â?? It is the same Greek word used for â??homosexual offenderâ?? in 1 Corinthians 6:9, variously translated as â??abusers of themselves with mankindâ?? (KJV), homosexuals (NASB) or homosexual offender (NIV).

Some people claim that the sin involved in Sodom was rejecting hospitality customs or selfishness rather than homosexual behavior. Certainly, the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah was great and their reported sin was grievous to God (Genesis 18:20). God sent angels to Sodom andâ?¦

â??Now before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both old and young, all the people from every quarter, surrounded the house. And they called to Lot and said to him, Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have sex with themâ?? (Genesis 19:4-5).

â??While it is true that the Hebrew word yadha does not necessarily mean 'to have sex with,' nonetheless in the context of Sodom and Gommorah, it clearly had this meaning. â?¦It means 'to know sexually' in this very chapter when Lot refers to his two daughters not having â??knownâ?? a man (19:8).â?? 9 You would not offer virgins to appease a mob if their sin was lack of hospitality, but only if their desire was sexual.

Although Ezekiel 16:49 condemns Sodom for its selfishness with regard to poverty etc., this does not contradict its condemnation for homosexual practices. â??The very next verse of Ezekiel (v. 50) calls their sin an â??abomination.â?? This is the same Hebrew word used to describe homosexual sins in Leviticus 18:22.â??10

It is also used in Scripture to describe such things like the practice of offering children to Moloch, but never such things as mere selfishness or lack of hospitality. Even in legal parlance, the word used to refer to one aspect of homosexual practice is 'sodomy'.

Another argument is that Jonathon and David were homosexuals as 'Jonathan loved David (1 Sam. 18:3), that Jonathan stripped in David's presence (18:4), [and] that they kissed each other (20:41)'.11

However, â??David's love for Jonathan was not sexual (erotic) but a friendship (philic) love. And Jonathan did not strip himself of all his clothes, but only of his armor and royal robe (1 Sam. 18:4).â??12 Also, a kiss was a normal greeting in that day, such as when Judas kissed Jesus. In several cultures today, men normally greet each other with a kiss, too. Further, David's love for his wives, especially Bathsheba (2 Samuel 11), clearly reveals his heterosexual orientation.

Isaiah 56:3 states that eunuchs will not be excluded from God's presence (â??my templeâ??), but practicing homosexuals are not eunuchs. Eunuchs have no sexual relations at all.

Other scriptural arguments for homosexuality can similarly be easily refuted. It is clear that heterosexual marriage is the only form of marriage sanctioned in the Bible and that homosexual practice is always condemned.

The Bible not only describes homosexual behavior as detestable, but it also calls for the punishment of those involved (Leviticus 20:13). Their unrepentant attitude caused God to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 19:24-25).

Just as homosexual conduct has been punished in the past, so it will also be punished by God in the future.

â??â?¦Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortion ers will inherit the kingdom of Godâ?? (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

However, there is hope for the homosexual. God forgives and cleanses a person who repents and turns from their sin, including the sin of homosexual behavior (1 Corinthians 6:11). As well as forgiveness, God's grace brings with it the power to live a life that is pleasing to God (Romans 6:6-7). If repentance and reform are genuine, prior homosexual actions should not be a bar to church membership or ministry, as all Christians are reformed sinners.

â??Liberalâ?? churches espouse tolerance of homosexual behavior in the name of â??love.â?? They plug for the acceptance of homosexual conduct as normal, â??because they can't help it.â?? They are not only wrong about the latter, but they are actually not being at all loving towards homosexuals, because, contrary to the Bible, they reduce the homosexual person to the level of an animal, driven by instinct. In removing moral responsibility from the person, they dehumanize them, whereas the Bible says we are made in the image of God (Genesis 1:26-27), with the power of moral choice.

Furthermore, the gospel proclaims liberation from the bondage of sin, including homosexual sin, whereas the â??liberalsâ?? tell the homosexual that they cannot help it, and they can't help them either, so they will accept them as they are! However, many a person has been gloriously rescued from the bondage of homosexual sin (and other sin) by the power of the Holy Spirit, but only Bible-believing Christians can offer such hope.13

As with all moral issues, our beliefs about our origin determine our attitude. If we believe that we arose from slime by a combination of random chance events and the struggle for survival, it is understandable to say that there is no higher authority, and we can make our own rules. However, if there is a loving God who planned us and gave commands for us to follow, then we must do so. God has set forth His standards in the Bible, beginning with the foundational teaching in the book of Genesis.

More on-line information on this topic
What about gays needs to change? Answer
It may not be what you think.

What does the Bible say about same sex marriages? Answer

Can a gay or lesbian person go to heaven? Answer

What should be the attitude of the church toward homosexuals and homosexuality? Answer

Read stories from those who have struggled with homosexuality - GO

References and notes
Lansdown, A., The 'Rights' of Homosexuals, Life News, p. 1, February 1995.
Randall, D.A., Bill Loader on Homosexuality, Life News, p. 4, September 1996.
Hamer, D.H. et.al., A linkage between DNA markers on the X chromosome and male sexual orientation, Science 261(5119):321327, 1993.
Levay, S., The Sexual Brain, MIT Press, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA, 1993 (as quoted in ref. 6, pp. 367, 665).
Bailey, J.M. and Pillard, R.C., A genetic study of male sexual orientation, General Psychiatry 48(12):10891096, 1991.
Matlin, M.W., Psychology, 3rd ed., Harcourt Brace College Publishers, Fort Worth, Texas, USA, p. 366, 1999.
Excerpts from the Baptist Union of WA document on human sexuality, Life News, October 1997. (Final Report of the Task Force on Human Sexuality, Baptist Union of Western Australia, July 1997).
Hogg, RS, et al., Modelling the impact of HIV disease on mortality in gay men. International Journal of Epidemiology 26(3):65761, 1997.
Geisler, N.L., Christian Ethics, Michigan, USA, Baker Books, p. 261, 1989.
Ref. 9, p. 262.
Ref. 9, p. 259.
Ref. 9, p. 265.
See, for example, the testimonies of people rescued from homosexual sin at www.exodus-international.org/testimonials_left_homosexuality.shtml, 28 October 2003.
Author: Ann Lamont , Creation Ministries International.

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Grandpa, the copy-and-paste warrior!

What I find funny about this "Christian expert" is that discrimination against gender and race is condemned, while discrimination against homosexuality is condoned.


If this "Christian expert" bothered to read his holy book, he would find that the bible blatantly advocates slavery and misogeny. Oops.

So much for it being wrong to discriminate based on "what a person is".


You'll have to read the links to get an answer to that. But, quite simply, homosexuality is being promoted as a means for population control and, in fact, dissolution of what we perceive as the cornerstone of our culture --- the marriage unit.


Until 1975, homosexuality was defined by the APA as a mental illness. Then $$$$$ came in and changed the tune.

If this was the 1950's, you'd probably not be gay. Only when perversion got mainstreamed did people with a slight case of the mental illness feel free to get into these things.


Plus, people are not born Christian, they are made that way.

They could choose to not be Christian but they live it anyway and make um, special, posts on the interwebz.

I think Christianity is unnatural and I want it to stop.


Give me an explanation of why you hate homosexuality that doesn't quote the Bible or commit the naturalistic fallacy.


False on Misogyny. Again learn how to spell the word.


Prove homosexuality is normal without quoting modernistic science, or commit non-tradition folly. Go away '09