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Yeah, Happy Thanksgiving![/quote]
Indeed, happy thanksgiving to everybody.
Isn’t it a good thing we’ve progressed so far above this level of ignorance? Now we’re blessed with decimated families, overcrowded prisons, depraved, violent sickness rotting our cities, our children killing us and each other and an astronomical mountain of crippling socialist debt. We’ve come a long way baby from those loathsome times of the restrictive morality of the “religious right”. How tragic it would be to give up all this freedom now and go back to that.[/quote]
What the politically correct, atheists leftists don’t understand is that the further we push God away the more we need tougher laws and big government to fill the void. We are going through that metamorphosis right now.
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When most children followed their parents (two parents married to each other yeah) to church they didn’t usually go out that night and impregnate their girlfriends. Now it’s all okay because that pregnant girlfriend can collect government aid. This is only one example the list is endless. As I said when we remove God we have to replace him with government. And the end game is going to look really bad as this will not work long-term.
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Ah, yes. As we all know, without the impending threat of eternal hell fire—or the revelation that there is a creator who disapproves of murder, theft and irresponsible sexual activity—ad hoc man made laws are required to keep our depravity in check. It’s inconceivable that without the Bible people could understand that some actions ought not be done, or that there are consequences to one’s actions. Surely it’s because they have not been schooled in the Bible that teenagers engage in irresponsible promiscuity.
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Without a strong moral base it’s obvious to see what is happening not just here in America but around the world. Our moral standards have been driven lower each decade. You can claim that it’s not the fact that more people have turned from God, but then you’d have to tell me why it is as it is. SO…I’m waiting. [/quote]
That is just nonsense, how far do you wanna go back, witch burnings, the KKK or hillybillies impregnating their sisters?
Cross burnings, Jim Crow laws, slavery, gay bashing, war in the Phillipines, prohibition, shotgun weddings, genocide, my, my, my, the good ole days.
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-More Cchildren being born into a family with both a mother and a father (MARRIED).
-Lower murder rate
-Less burglaries
-Less armed robberies
-Less rape
-Less drug use (and hence drug related crime)
-Less alcoholism as it’s doubled since 1960 (less people killed by drunk drivers)
-Less teen pregnancy
-No AIDS virus
I could go on and on - I’m not saying things were perfect 50 or 60 years ago, but generally morally they were a heck of a lot better than they are now - Yeah that’s a fact!
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Did you say they were better 50-60 years ago? Pretty sure that was the generation that managed to start a world war. That’s over 60 million lives. Painful, horrible, spiteful deaths.[/quote]
Yes one man Adolph Hitler decided to start a war, and our ancestors went after him and won. I’m very proud of America especially during those times. Tom Brokaw (not known for his conservatism) called those folks “The Greatest Generation”. I believe that he was correct. Moral values were better back then as pointed out in the list that I made in a previous post.
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It wasn’t just one man who started a war.
Many men undertook to war. Slavery was rife, and many nations were just about wrenching themselves free of colonialism.
How the japanese treated prisoners of war. How the jews were decimated (one man did this right?) I absolutely love the ego-centrism of your statement which brings it back to america - if you’re going to talk about morals back then, you must accept evidence from all parts of the western world at the very least. Don’t be proud of a generation that still viewed blacks as an inferior race.
The list goes on, but you get the point. You can’t claim that generation to have better morals than ours.
Promiscuity? May not be the best thing in the world (sometimes it is!) but it hardly compares. That said, I do accept that humans now are just as fucked up as they were then. We at least recognise the fact.
Homosexuals? Do you know that the proportion of homosexuals was probably the same throughout the ages? Plenty of man-loving around mate.
AIDS - sorry, explain your train of thoughts here re: morals?