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Test Taper Experience

I have read and researched this method, and it seems to be gaining notoriety. However, the people who have actually used it seem to be slim.

My question is to those who have run BOTH a test taper and SERM pct, which did you think worked best for you and why? I know many donâ??t have the blood tests to back it, but in terms of successful pct, I guess I mean gains retained compared to that of your alternative pct method.

I have seen those who have used it in other threads, but I can probably count those on one hand. I know there is a test taper thread, but thought this may be a slightly different route since that thread is basically a â??how toâ?? and more informative than anything.

I know that everyone is different, but I am kind of intrigued by the test taper, and will probably combine it with a SERM in my next pct.

Thanks.

I’ve used both and prefer the taper both in terms of gains retention and recovery. You come off so slowly with the taper you never have the crash or sudden loss many get with the serm pct.

[quote]saps wrote:
I’ve used both and prefer the taper both in terms of gains retention and recovery. You come off so slowly with the taper you never have the crash or sudden loss many get with the serm pct. [/quote]

You use the same taper as detailed here in the stickies?

Yeah pretty much, when I did taper off. Ive become a blast and cruise guy now. But the taper as stickied is the best option IMO

of course even the guy that wrote the thing will tell you…after many cycles it just does not work anymore…just like every other form of PCT. We like to tell ourselves that we can do this indefinetley and just do our PCT and everything will be jolly in endocrine land. Well that just isn’t what heppens over many years. I don’t care how simple or how comlex your pct is in the end it will stop working and you will either accept it and stop completely or start staying on non-stop…

Almost every guy i know that has written a kick ass PCT program will tell you the same thing “well i never come off but if i did thats the way i would do it.” Myself incuded so i am certainly not pointing fingers. You can do your best but in the end the body is not so easily tricked.

[quote]saps wrote:
I’ve used both and prefer the taper both in terms of gains retention and recovery. You come off so slowly with the taper you never have the crash or sudden loss many get with the serm pct. [/quote]

That is the logic of why I am going to run it. I know tren shuts you down hard, so I figured I’d try to do this optimally. I am including a SERM as well, which is overkill, but its cheap so what the hey.

[quote]of course even the guy that wrote the thing will tell you…after many cycles it just does not work anymore…just like every other form of PCT. We like to tell ourselves that we can do this indefinetley and just do our PCT and everything will be jolly in endocrine land. Well that just isn’t what heppens over many years. I don’t care how simple or how comlex your pct is in the end it will stop working and you will either accept it and stop completely or start staying on non-stop…

Almost every guy i know that has written a kick ass PCT program will tell you the same thing “well i never come off but if i did thats the way i would do it.” Myself incuded so i am certainly not pointing fingers. You can do your best but in the end the body is not so easily tricked. [/quote]

True. However, I am very new to anabolics, and this is only my second cycle. I retained most of what I gained on the first, and would think that this one should be the same. Hopefully I am not being too optimistic because like I have said before, after this one I am done for a long time, possibly permanently (due to occupational circumstances).

[quote]saps wrote:
Yeah pretty much, when I did taper off. Ive become a blast and cruise guy now. But the taper as stickied is the best option IMO[/quote]

Thanks

[quote]saps wrote:
Yeah pretty much, when I did taper off. Ive become a blast and cruise guy now. But the taper as stickied is the best option IMO[/quote]

Did you use test or the 50/50 test/mast option?

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

[quote]saps wrote:
Yeah pretty much, when I did taper off. Ive become a blast and cruise guy now. But the taper as stickied is the best option IMO[/quote]

Did you use test or the 50/50 test/mast option?[/quote]
No the last two times I came off it was just test. As a blast and cruiser now my cruises are just test and mast and were I ever to come all the way off I’d definitely use mast and test