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Test E and Deca Cycle Help


#1

Hey guys, just had some questions about a Test and Deca cycle. Tried researching it, but conflicting responses have led me to make my own thread for help. I've been told by a friend that when running Test and Deca, it is best to run 3:1 or even 3.5:1 ratio of test to Deca. Therefore if I wanted to do the "minimum amount" of 400mg Deca ew, I'd need at least 1200mg of Test E ew divided into two doses of 600. This is my second cycle, my first was Test E 500 only of 16 weeks.

So my basic questions are, is this true about the Test:Deca ratio as I've read many Test 700 + Deca 400 cycles with no libido issues reported. Also what would be an ideal way to break the cycle down? I was told to do 16-22 weeks, how would I pyramid up to the peak dose and taper off? Also is anything else needed as well? PCT is Nolva, Clomid and HCG during cycle?

I'm 27 years old, 5'6", 200-205 lbs at 15% bf, training for 5 years. Looking to blow up a bit and get stronger more than anything. Thanks for any help or criticism or anything! If any more info is required let me know


#2

Im running 750 test/400 deca. Running the test for 14 weeks and eca for 12. Definately need an ai like aromasin and some caber on hand. As for pct i like nolvadex or aromasin but everybody reacts diffetently


#3

Thanks for the reply. Any sides at all like low libido or ED?


#4

#5

Thanks KSman, learned some useful stuff about PCT. Any comment on the Deca:Test ratio having any minimums? I am mainly looking for the recovery benefits of Deca more so than chasing size, but I’m not adverse to it


#6

Im only on the 1st week…


#7

I don’t know about the ratio. But I had one young TRT guy who got gear from a friend and did a <> with no PCT and he was screwed. Sent him to the best doc I know and restarts failed. He is on TRT for life now. So I can say that that ratio is dangerous to some.

Back then we could do PM’s and I worked with him one-on-one for a while.


#8

Oh wow KSman that’s crazy! I’ve read deca shuts you down hard, and I’m trying to avoid TRT for life. I don’t mind the regular pinning, but not sure if I want to literally pin every two days or every week literally for the rest of my life. I do plan to keep anabolics apart of my life for the rest of it though. It’s clear test is needed along side deca, I’m just trying to find a guideline or approx ratio. Most of what I read isn’t even 2x the amount of test to deca. And I’m worried about excess Test use when it’s not needed for the minimum deca dose