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Test E and Dbol Cycle


I’ll be doing my first cycle

1-12weeks 500mg test e (250mg mon/250mg thurs)
1-4weeks dianabol 30mg/day
clomid 50/50/25/25
nolvadex 20/20/20/20

is this good or i need to add hcg to have smooth recovery and to protect my balls?
tips and suggestions are welcome! thank you.


Cycle looks good. Personally I would run the hCG because it’s not like the shit’s expensive and it’s just a little subQ pin every couple of days, but it’s not absolutely necessary.

I assume you’re using an AI from the start and aren’t being one of those morons who like to have it “on hand”?


You need an AI on cycle.

Adex @ 0.5mg eod - some people also carry this on through PCT with a taper down.

HCG 250iu x 3 per week

PCT is ok but could be improved by dropping chlomid and going with nolvadex @ 20mg per day for 8 weeks