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Test Cyp - Tbol Cycle Help!


Im going to make this short and sweet, when i was around 22 i had an extremely bad experience with a cycle, mainly due to my stupidity…but it scared me away from roids for 11 years, which tells you my age now. I was running test e with dbol, test 400 mg a week, dbol 30 mg a day…had no pct or ai on hand, starting experiencing gyno around week 4-5, couldnt get an ai, quit cold turkey, shit down natural test…took me 8-9 months to pull out of that rut.

Fast forward to now, 33, 5 foot 7, 240lb and feel ive reached my natural platue, roughly 25-30% bodyfat. I thought i reached the point were i wanted to jump back in the game, not looking to get freaky big but purchased test cyp, tbol, nolva, and aramosin…the trst was late getting to me unexpedectedly, just got it but i have been taking tbol for 5 days at 50 mg a day…ive decided to completely drop tbol…i am an extreme hypochondriac and after reading about liver toxicity i dont want to mentally put myself through the worry every day.

So my first cycle back will consist of test cyp only for 10 weeks at 300 mg a week, with nolva pct stsrting two weeks after last test shot…does 300 mg seem good for a first cycle back at 33?


The gold standard seems to be 500mg/wk but 300mg should still reap some decent mass. I have a hard time believing your are 5’7 240 and only 20% BF. No offense because if you are that’s massive and a ton of muscle. Kudos.


None taken, to be honest the body fat stat is from around a year ago, i have put on some weight since then, waist size 35.5-36, Thanks for the reponse, still deciding what mg to go with!



If it’s body composition, you should save the cycle for later, when your body fat is less. You’re likely to have E2 problems at your current composition, and frankly, you’d be better off dieting down rather than running a cycle.

If you are going to run a cycle, get blood tests first. Probably too late for that I’m guessing. I also think 300 is too low for any real benefit assuming your test levels are normal. You might just shut yourself down and get back to barely above normal levels with that dose. So if you insist on running a cycle, do 500mg a week with an AI.

I suspect you may not have your PCT sorted out yet and suggest you get that done now - get everything on hand well before you need it - HCG and nolva would be my suggestions.

Good luck.


Everything both of those guys said. Plus this: tbol, while hepatotoxic, is not that bad. If you’re healthy and don’t drink much your liver is probably in decent enough shape to handle a six week run of something like tbol. But you shouldn’t do it. Not because of the toxicity issue, but because it seems like you’re still trying to figure out what you want and what you can handle. I think you’re right to go with test only this time and see what you can make of it. Saving the tbol for another time is wise.


Thanks for the responses, i had a blood test run a few weeks ago, everything was good to go, however my test was 450 ng/dl which i thought was low, but the doc didnt think anything of it.


Mine was 170 when I started TRT. Depends on when it was taken - first thing in the morning, not great. End of day, not bad. The 450 that is. 170 sucks anytime.