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Tendon/Ligament/Joint Health: Collagen? Bone Broth?

#21

Increasing liver clearance. In my case, flushing my estradiol out.

I was considering going the bone broth method, but it seems like there are a bunch of recipes and nothing seems standardized. Maybe ill just stick with the collagen.

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#22

Yeah a collagen supplement seems more measurable.

I was taking the bone broth at night before bed for the glycine

#23

Pure anecdote here, but I started taking a collagen supplement in my morning coffee about two years ago and feel that it’s been helpful with respect to recovery.

My wife and I also make our own bone broth whenever we have enough leftover bones, and we eat a LOT of soups that we make with bone broth. It’s delicious.

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#24

Noticed the comments about Collagen with coffee or water. Is there any problems with putting it in a whey shake or adding it to a stew or curry?

#25

Have you tried stopping eating Kellogs Rice Crispies mate?

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#26

No you can totally do that. It’s used in cooking as a thickener.

#27

Nope. No problem with this.

I will say that you may want to try a couple different brands. The one that my wife and I tried first a) tended to “goop” up in chunks (didn’t mix smoothly in liquid unless blended thoroughly) and b) had a bit of a funky taste to it. Our second brand was much better from that standpoint, mixed well and completely flavorless (which can be an advantage). Then we found a flavored one that we really like, delicious in coffee, and have been using that for the last six months or so.

#28

@tails1

I was told that you could only mix it with whey isolate, otherwise it will bind to the other proteins. This is what they said they were trained on, (supp store employees)

HOWEVER, the brand I bought has no rules about that, it basically says you can mix it with anything. I have just been doing empty stomach to be sure.

#29

Cinnamon Toast Crunch only.

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#30

What brand do you use? I have joint probs from low e2 as well

#31

Sports Research .

Per an endo on these boards, I also take fish oil and eat grass fed butter to heal my joints after low e2.

Keeping e2 higher also helps a lot.

#32

Does collagen really do anything for tendon health?

I have been wanting to try it because my quad tendon tends to play up with all the volume I have been doing lately for meet prep.

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#33

Mine were thrashed from lowering my e2 for too long. All the tendons in my forearms were “tight” and would pop and snap, painful also. I would get tennis/golf elbow very easily. It has helped in that department.

I started by looking at Amazon reviews, and I noticed a common statement among them. “my joints didn’t hurt anymore”

I read tons of reviews stating that old arthritis pain went away, blah blah. So I figured it was worth a shot.

Im going on about 3 months taking this stuff which is how long they recommend before feeling full effect.

#34

And you think this has helped?

I got collagen type II because this is what the vitamin shoppe guy recommended for joints. It looks like yours is type 1 and 3, you recommend that instead?

Also, have you ever tried Sam-e for your joints?

I notice my elbows and wrists are better since I quit taking anastrazole with my trt but I still have very tight hips and knees

#35

I feel like it helps keep my joints and ligaments from snapping and popping so much. They still crack and pop but there is no pain.

You’ll have to do your own research and come to your own conclusion on that. I didn’t like how type 2 worked.

Sam-E can increase liver function which for me flushed my E2, cant use it. I have though before.