TEK,
I am a beginner to body building starting out at about 70 kg. like many, my goal is to get huge, strong and lean (aiming for only 80 kg at this stage) but I am starting out a bit flabby (subcutaneos flab and loose skin) after a massive fat and muscle loss (105-65kg) so I figured ECA would might help, I also have good workouts when taking it with creatine. but Is supose ECA is useless if I am on high protein high carbs and mod fat?
Mike