[quote]sufiandy wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
In the animal kingdom animals murder each other all the time as well. So should murder be legal?
For example, a male lion will kill another male lion taking his “property”. If the dead lion had cubs he will also murder them.
So, I guess since we are just animals, I can walk into my next door neighbor’s house and murder him and his family, correct? After all, we are just animals.
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As the other male lion would you at least try to stop him from killing you? Laws against murder are just another line of defense.[/quote]
Yes, I would defend myself.
How are words on a piece of paper another line of defense?
Me, “Oh God stop stabbing me, murder is agains the law!”
Murderer, “Oh my bad, I didn’t realize that, sorry…”
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If there was another group of lions around the lion being considered for attack, do you think the attacker would reconsider his options? Sure he could probably make the kill if he acted fast but whats the point if his life would end shortly after?[/quote]
I’m not understanding your point as it relates to what I wrote to Angry? Angry, said we are just animals. Animals murder each other and take their property all the time. So we too should be able to murder each other and take each other’s properties as well if we are the same, correct?
To answer your question, yes, I think fight or flight applies to the animal kingdom. [/quote]
I don’t think he said they “should be able to murder”, just that they do murder, the same as humans and nothing will change that fact.[/quote]
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Humans not special snowflakes, they are animals. And, as in the animal kingdom, there is no guarantee nor “right” to life. [/quote]
This:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Says otehrwise.
Also if you use the above (Liberty) as you argument against abortion. That is, by taking away a woman right to an abortion. How can you ignore all three when it comes to an unborn baby? Isn’t that inconsistent at best?
If we are “just animals,” than the “law of the jungle,” should apply and Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness mean nothing.