Society sees child porn as victimizing the children involved. That is why it’s prohibited. It’s a CRIMINAL issue; it’s not an economic value-issue.
It’s yes or no - so what is your answer? Yes or no?
Sounds great in a fantasy world where the government doesn’t run a deficit pretty much every year and we aren’t $20T in debt.
People should say, “Yes, this is what the government should do and I will help pay for these specific things. Otherwise, it’s a waste of my resources.”
Perhaps people are just tired of saying yes to unreasonable levels of government spending.
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It is a value issue. Once someone says that a pedophile values child porn that’s an acknowledgment of that fact.
In some countries there are different standards when it comes to children and sex. Why? Because they find some value in it whereas we see it as not only not providing any value but costing society too much.
I guess we are both in a fantasy world. We could never agree on what government should pay for. This gets back to how we decide what is or isn’t valuable.
We’re just trying to get you to open the bottle of Scotch earlier. 
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haha.
You know it’s funny, I’m actually doing billings right now, and just came across last years extra for carry analysis and subsequent tax distributions.
We got to get out of the disease of worrying about the other guy… We literally have no control over someone else’s situation, hell we barely control our own.
While I disagree I don’t see a point in taking this any further.
Here’s my take on this:
Western Civ has really put emotional development on a back burner. Outside of religious institutions (which have their own weaknesses) we really spent no time in addressing what happiness is, nor that we has humans are not going to be happy all the time and need to learn to process that.
What we’ve focused on is more material “happiness”. While this isn’t a bad thing, it isn’t emotional happiness.
So now, and there is really no denying this, we live in the most prosperous society the world have every known, from top to bottom. The poorest among us take shits into water that’s lightyears cleaner than 99.9% of the drinking water man has had for the history of civilization.
We live in a society that has so much abundance, our basic instincts are completely at odds with our current existence. We’ve won. And won big. We ran up the score so bad there is no denying it.
Now couple that with the fact that due to technology and advancement in thought, man’s (yes, male specific here) place in society is drastically different than we’ve evolved to be. Our roles have changed, our attitudes have changed, but we can’t erase millions of years of evolution that is carried in our DNA. So we’re angst ridden, depressed, under utilized and live entirely too long. This permeates into our wives, children, the world.
God is dead, money and wealth aren’t spiritually fulfilling and the opportunity (rather need) to be the prototypical “hero” that uses the biological advantages of “male” to do our part to advance society via brute force, determination and competition are gone.
We’re a lost half that’s creating a lost species. At least women have the foundational truth and advantage of being majorly responsible for our continuation as a species. Without them, we’d have fallen off into disorder and ill repair much faster and totally unable to recover.
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Yeah, that’s not the way it works. If a bus is stuck in a ditch, it’s utterly pointless for a single person to try and pull it out. We all have to pull together. And rather than pulling the bus out, the proposed tax plan pushes it into the ditch further still.
We’re talking about different types of value. You’re talking about moral values. I’m talking about economic value.
I’m talking about how the value we place on things is not an accurate measure of its value. There is an economic cost involved with making child porn legal and the pedophile isn’t going to pay for it. Yes, I believe it is immoral but even immorality comes with an economic price. Is it coincidence that the places where children have fewer rights are crap holes? Places where animal cruelty isn’t even a concept are poor and disgusting.
Neither of these is a coincidence. Many people, when they have disposable income and time, choose to become busy-bodies. Places are “crap holes” because they have nothing, and not because children have fewer rights and animal cruelty isn’t a concept.
It’s much like the 40-hour work week “brought to you by unions.” People barely surviving while working all day everyday would think insane someone demanding they only work 40 hours a week.
Profound. What IS an accurate measure of a thing’s value(AKA monetary worth)? Note that I’m not talking about your VALUES or my VALUES(AKA principles, ethics, morals).
That was Thomas Jefferson’s rational for not releasing his slaves. Everybody has to do it, or nobody does.
Not at all sure what that has to do with the topic at hand, but OK.
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Plus jefferson was slipping his house slaves the D. Something white free maids may have objected to.
Those 1790’s harlots? I doubt it. T’was a time of free love and loose morals, or so i gather from my 0 hours of research on the matter.
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Off topic, but the founding fathers could throw some wicked shade:
‘That bastard brat of a Scottish peddler! His ambition, his restlessness and all his grandiose schemes come, I’m convinced, from a superabundance of secretions, which he couldn’t find enough whores to absorb!’
John Adams on Alexander Hamilton
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Not a FF, but one of my favorites comes from none other than POTUS candidate Abe Lincoln, who said of his opponent Mr Douglas (from memory): “His argument is as thin as the homeopathic soup made from boiling the shadow of a pigeon that has starved to death.”
If it turns out he didn’t say it, please don’t tell me.
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