[quote]David Murtagh wrote:
Vwaju92 wrote:
[…] my father saw fit and was intelligent enough to recognize that training was the key. I began my firearm training at age eight. Some of the fondest memories I have of my late father are of us trap and skeet shooting together.
You only entered this thread to stir up some shit, nothing more. I deal with children like you where I work every single day. They are called felons by the criminal justice system. You keep some pretty good company. Go out and catch a charge so you can hang out with more of your ilk.
Do these felons have guns? Maybe a pretty little number just for their own safety? Let’s hope not, Sheriff, for your sake.
I assume if your father sought fit to train you to use guns then you must have had a legitimate need to use them (such as living on a farm). In which case, no problem. Enjoy. I agree gun training is important, just ask this guy: http://news.com.com/2061-10786_3-6061397.html
People living in a city - unless sporting shooters - have no reason to own a gun and are a danger to themselves and others.
You can argue, you can obfuscate, you can build straw men and you can put up smokescreens, but your family is more likely to be a victim of a gun if there’s a gun in the house. Better still, they’re more likely to be shot by a family member … Even if the gun is under lock and key. There are heaps of stories about it. But put up arguments about banning cars if you wish, it shows the desperation of your argument.
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No the felons don’t have guns, we took them away, why? They broke the law in one way or another. And yes a family member is more likely to a victim of a gun if there’s one in the house that is a basic law of statistic’s not sociology that I won’t argue.
The cars? it’s not desperation but fact for comparison. Of the 706 book-ins in my jail, so far this year (it’s a small jail) 2, okay slowly for the slow…t w o were firearm related two kids broke into one of their grandparents home to steal a shotgun to sell. the rest are batteries, drugs, parole/probation violations and the majority? OWI, and RLE by fleeing by vehicle.
The one manslaughter charge in the last two was against a 19 year old kid who killed his buddy while they were out drinking, and he killed him with the car not a gun. It’s not an argument born of desperation it is one of fact. You keep trying to point out that guns are so dangerous so we shouldn’t have them.
The real fact is that your more likely to killed by an automobile or suffer an injury in an auto accident than by a firearm, no desperation just numbers. Sorry they’re not all that pretty. So by your simplistic logic we should ban cars, mass transport is available, why does anyone need their own car?
Just once more for the s l o w. It’s not an argument of desperation it’s one made simply for comparison and following your logic in dealing with issues that permeate our society, it’s not a perfect world, that’s why I carry and will continue to do so on duty or off, and someone that doesn’t work in law enforcement? It’s their right to do the same, it’s called freedom, you should try it. Oh, you are, freedom of speech.
This thread was for an opinion on the quality of a certain product, stop the hijack, I will too, and vent somewhere else. Let these other guys exercise their freedom, and exchange their thoughts about what this thread was started for. There are more than enough soap boxes out there for the both of us to climb and shout from.
Back to Taurus. I owned one of the knockoffs of the beretta 92, fired several hundred rounds through it - no troubles at all. I sold it to put money down on a trap gun. It’s my understanding that when berreta sold their Brazil plant it was Taurus that bought it, Beretta had left their dies, etc. behind, so Taurus just started stamping pistols out in the late 80’s early 90’s? Their quality and catalog of what’s available has just kept climbing ever since.