karma–you should come check out my new gym. my buddy is a strenght coach (poliquin intern, and bodybuilder), and just built his own place by hand, and has all brand new free weights. its not very big, just a room with everything you need, and he only trains clients in there, so the only people that lift there are his clients, myself, and him. (ie never more than one other person training.) its right off of colfax and simms, where exactly are you at?