T-Men Prone to be Conservative?

Conservative is believing in self reliance. personal responsibility.

Liberal is believing in reliance on the government.

Conservative - “It’s my fault if I am fat and out of shape.”

Liberal - “It’s McDonald’s fault if I am fat and out of shape.”

The T-Man philosophy boarders on libertarianism. It is more compatible with a conservative philosophy as it is about self reliance and responsibility.

That being said, many if not most Republican politicians are not really conservative. Bush is a liberal Republican.

Since conservatives are into self reliance, not reliance on the government they actually shy away from political jobs. The ones who get into politics have some belief in the government being a good thing.

Now if you have ever seen one of those news reports about some massive person who has been unable to get out of bed for years, we here realize that somebody had to keep feeding this person their 40 lbs of bacon and 2 boxes of Fruit Loops for breakfast.

We call this codependence. To me liberalism is simply government sponsored codependence.

Research for the book The Millionaire Next Door found that the more financial help a person receives from their parents, the less successful they were financially.

You’ll never learn to walk if somebody keeps carrying you.

Here in Norway, we’re full of socialists. Everyone who is pretty conservative is seen upon as idiots. Yes, i love our health care system, school system etc, but so much of the system is fucked up, i am so god damn sick of the socialist system.

For example, a guy from where i live just got charged for rape, drunk driving and two cases of assault (where one of them lost 2 theets). You know how much he was sentenced to? 2 and a half fucking year. And you only need to serve 3/4 of your sentence, so he will probably be out after two years. It’s also normal to get 5-6 years for murder. And the prisons here are like hotels. Playstation for everyone.

Statistics showed that 75% off all crimes was done by non-western foreigns, and the states do nothing about it. They doesn’t even need to work, because the state gives them a place to live and pay them a high amount of cash, compared with what are used to they’re country. You can see immigrants driving BMW here.

The tax levels here are total crazy to, and the states suck at sharing the cash right. And we got a huge oil fond which the government refuse to use, because we’re saving it for the next generation, but they got no problem with donating 600 million dollar yearly to rainforest in Indonesia, with not security that the money will be used to the right purpose.

We are quickly building down our millitary force , because the millitary can’t afford to mainetenance the current millitary. Hospitals in small cities are being abandoned. Were on of the biggest oil exportes, but we still got one of the highest gas prices. What the fuck is going on?

This was just a few examples. Were one of the wealthiest countries in the world, but thats definetively because of the oil and not the socialists. Hope a conservative party will get the power in the next election, i want more self-dependent!

(Sorry about my bad grammar, I’m working on it.)

It’s not liberal or conservative. At least in the traditional sense. There’s a VAST middle-ground. I don’t think traditional liberal philosphy is very T-man at all. But I dont think the current administration is either.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
What’s that copied and pasted from?

An automatic complaint generator. I figured you were using the same thing.[/quote]

lol. Zap these auto complaints are gold. I want to know where you get these from!

[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
What’s that copied and pasted from?

An automatic complaint generator. I figured you were using the same thing.

lol. Zap these auto complaints are gold. I want to know where you get these from![/quote]

Although, ultimately, you will need to make up your own mind about Aragorn, I have a number of things to say that you may find useful. As this letter will make clear, Aragorn is extremely shallow. In fact, my Shallow-O-Meter confirms that the purpose of this letter is far greater than to prove to you how voluble and high-handed Aragorn has become. The purpose of this letter is to get you to start thinking for yourself, to start thinking about how that fact is simply inescapable to any thinking man or woman. “Thinking” is the key word in the previous sentence.

Indisputably, Aragorn is a bacillus in the libidinous gut of Dadaism. An obvious parallel from a different context is that I welcome his comments. However, he needs to realize that I want my life to count. I want to be part of something significant and lasting. I want to make some changes here.

I find Aragorn’s slogans highly insulting. It’s a pity. I plan to step back and consider the problem of Aragorn’s quips in the larger picture of popular culture imagery. Are you with me – or against me? Whatever you decide, Aragorn measures the value of a man by the amount of profit he can realize from him. It is no more complicated than that.

The fault, dear Aragorn, is not in your stars but in yourself. There’s one thing you can certainly say about him: He has a sense of humor. He was being a real comedian when he told us that there should be publicly financed centers of nonrepresentationalism. He occasionally shows what appears to be warmth, joy, love, or compassion. You should realize, however, that these positive expressions are more feigned than experienced and invariably serve an ulterior motive, such as to denigrate and discard all of Western culture.

Of perhaps even more concern is that Aragorn uses a rather possession-obsessed definition of “incomprehensibility”. That should serve as the final, ultimate, irrefutable proof that prudence is no vice. Cowardice – especially his blockish form of it – is.

The recent outrage at Aragorn’s op-ed pieces may point to a brighter future. For now, however, I must leave you knowing that a lot of people may end up getting hurt before the final spasm of his rage is played out.

[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
You know why Ron Paul is getting the money from the military? It isn’t to get out of Iraq buddy.[/quote]

Not sure.

Two years ago, more than 70% of US troops wanted to end the war within the year. One quarter wanted to leave immediately.

Just because the people you met didn’t, doesn’t mean it was representative of the whole force. It’s a common bias and I don’t blame you for falling prey to it.

I am not arguing against the idea that the military is overwhelmingly supporting Paul because of the oath they took to protect the constitution against foreign and domestic enemies. I am only challenging the claim that the troops don’t give a damn about the man’s positions on preemptive wars on the other side of the globe. We are talking about some pretty pissed people who saw their tours of duty extended.

Organizations of veterans against the war have spurred all across the country. If you got anything that might suggest the military is happy with being in Iraq and with Bush as a president, please share. If you can’t, forgive me for not considering you can speak for hundreds of thousands of people.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
I’m just sick of chest thumping conservatives who act like they’re the baddest shit to hit this planet, and then cower in trembling fear at anything foreign that conflicts with their culture or beliefs. Fucking pussies

Who’s “cowering”? You are the pussies that think we should cut and run. You are the fucking party of Cindy Sheehan. You re the party of PC.

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And the party of Big Government, setting up welfare program after welfare program, making people dependent on government.

Look how libs destroyed the black family unit in this country, by creating a victim-dependent class. Do T-men do such atrocities?

[quote]Tx5000 wrote:
Here in Norway, we’re full of socialists. Everyone who is pretty conservative is seen upon as idiots. Yes, i love our health care system, school system etc, but so much of the system is fucked up, i am so god damn sick of the socialist system.

For example, a guy from where i live just got charged for rape, drunk driving and two cases of assault (where one of them lost 2 theets). You know how much he was sentenced to? 2 and a half fucking year. And you only need to serve 3/4 of your sentence, so he will probably be out after two years. It’s also normal to get 5-6 years for murder. And the prisons here are like hotels. Playstation for everyone.

Statistics showed that 75% off all crimes was done by non-western foreigns, and the states do nothing about it. They doesn’t even need to work, because the state gives them a place to live and pay them a high amount of cash, compared with what are used to they’re country. You can see immigrants driving BMW here.

The tax levels here are total crazy to, and the states suck at sharing the cash right. And we got a huge oil fond which the government refuse to use, because we’re saving it for the next generation, but they got no problem with donating 600 million dollar yearly to rainforest in Indonesia, with not security that the money will be used to the right purpose.

We are quickly building down our millitary force , because the millitary can’t afford to mainetenance the current millitary. Hospitals in small cities are being abandoned. Were on of the biggest oil exportes, but we still got one of the highest gas prices. What the fuck is going on?

This was just a few examples. Were one of the wealthiest countries in the world, but thats definetively because of the oil and not the socialists. Hope a conservative party will get the power in the next election, i want more self-dependent!

(Sorry about my bad grammar, I’m working on it.)

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No complaints here about your grammar; you write well for writing in a 2nd language.

You make very good points about how Socialism is NOT the magnificent system it is portrayed to be — from someone who lives in a socialist system.

[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
Wow Hulk. You really showed all your cards in this thread. Now that I know not to listen to a thing that comes out of your mouth in future threads. You’ve also proven that you aren’t in the military. If you were you’d see that the extreme majority of us are conservative.

You know why Ron Paul is getting the money from the military? It isn’t to get out of Iraq buddy. It’s because most of us take our Oath of Enlistment seriously. Our support of the Constitution is important. Ron Paul shares our conviction.

And you want to talk of cowardice? I agree that many Republicans are chickens for fearing some backwards idiots thousands of miles away. But you know what is even more pathetic? Liberals being afraid of getting laid off from their menial job at the factory. God forbid they might have to find a different job. What’s even scarier? Not having universal health care. Oh no, they might have to forego that new HDTV to buy their own.

mike[/quote]

That is more of a response than I would have dignified his statements with.

The only thing he brings to the table is his avatar.

[quote][quote]lixy wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
You know why Ron Paul is getting the money from the military? It isn’t to get out of Iraq buddy.

Not sure.

Two years ago, more than 70% of US troops wanted to end the war within the year. One quarter wanted to leave immediately.

Just because the people you met didn’t, doesn’t mean it was representative of the whole force. It’s a common bias and I don’t blame you for falling prey to it.

I am not arguing against the idea that the military is overwhelmingly supporting Paul because of the oath they took to protect the constitution against foreign and domestic enemies. I am only challenging the claim that the troops don’t give a damn about the man’s positions on preemptive wars on the other side of the globe. We are talking about some pretty pissed people who saw their tours of duty extended.

Organizations of veterans against the war have spurred all across the country. If you got anything that might suggest the military is happy with being in Iraq and with Bush as a president, please share. If you can’t, forgive me for not considering you can speak for hundreds of thousands of people.[/quote][/quote]

Understood. I’m not saying that the troops aren’t ready to come back from Iraq. Hell, even I wouldn’t complain if we pulled out now. As far as I’m concerned we’ve won and the Iraqis will fight for their freedom. I think our presence only helps make the inevitable transition a little easier. I’m not claiming that the troops aren’t ready to come home; I’m saying that the majority aren’t voting for Paul on that stance primarily.

But so far as polls go, I really don’t trust them. My wife used to work in the polling industry and I’m well aware of how biased they are. The pollster WILL direct you toward whatever answer he/she is after. I would want to know exactly who was asked and what exactly they were asked before putting any faith into a poll.

I remember reading one done by the Marine Corps Times when I was in Iraq and all these guys were bashing Rumsfeld’s handling of Iraq. Something like 10% had even had one tour in Iraq and about the same percent were NCO’s and below. It was basically a bunch of high ranking officers with no combat experience badmouthing the guy. Polls are a joke. I don’t trust these polls any more than the ones that put Ron Paul at 6%.

That said, as I have stated before, I believe that my experience among infantry Marines is much different than your average army guardsman. But honestly, I don’t give a damn what the guardsman’s opinion is. I worked with those guys as well. The majority of them are people that were looking for a free pass through college without having to work for it. They didn’t want to be soldiers; they just wanted a tit.

Then when they got called up to do what they agreed to do in trade, they balked. So it is only to be expected that they want to come home. This is of course a pretty sweeping generalization and I wouldn’t call the patriotism of a guardsman into question indiviudally, but it does stand for the group.

For the record though, I have never thought the National Guard had any business being in Iraq in the first place. They belong at home under the control of the state’s governor.

mike

[quote]JD430 wrote:

That is more of a response than I would have dignified his statements with.

The only thing he brings to the table is his avatar.

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Yeah, when I was done I realized I actually strung together a response. Damn. I have to learn to stop feeding the trolls.

mike

[quote]jsbrook wrote:
It’s not liberal or conservative. At least in the traditional sense. There’s a VAST middle-ground. I don’t think traditional liberal philosphy is very T-man at all. But I dont think the current administration is either.[/quote]

Good point. I’d take it further and say that liberal and conservative are just catchphrase that’s around for so long that many of us are just used to identifying with them. And it’s especially absurd with the party association because reps and dems definitely don’t equate with conservative and liberal behaviors.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
I’m just sick of chest thumping conservatives who act like they’re the baddest shit to hit this planet, and then cower in trembling fear at anything foreign that conflicts with their culture or beliefs. Fucking pussies

Who’s “cowering”? You are the pussies that think we should cut and run. You are the fucking party of Cindy Sheehan. You re the party of PC.

Fucking pussies? Look in the mirror. That’s what a pussy looks like.
Please.

Your base cowers in the corner in fear of homosexuals. You tremble at the sight of Arabs. Immigration, illegal or not, enrages your base. Your twisted group now favors government expansion, civil libery erosion, pre emptive wars.

What the fuck happened to your party? If Bush and Co banned firearms tomorrow you fucking gutless lot would hand over your rifles in an instant, anything to appease the Lord Master George Bush who knows no wrongs.

Your fucking base has turned into a blind flood of followers willing to ignore reason and fact because you’re all so caught up in a wave of emotion over 9/11. A fucking 6 year old attack that claimed 3,000 American lives, and yet, we’ve already lost 4,000 American soldiers in Iraq alone. And for what? For abso-fucking-lutely nothing. Thousands upon thousands of dead Iraqi civilians and thousands of American lives, yeah, I do want to leave Iraq. We never should have been there in the first place.

And eventually, when they set their sights on Iran, you’ll support it. Because you cower in fear at the possibility of Iranians building a nuclear weapon. Fear. Cowardess. PUSSIES. We’ve got thousands of fucking nuclear weapons, what the fuck is wrong with you guys?? We’ve got the biggest nuclear arsenal in the world and you guys are shitting a brick over Iran hypothetically building one in 5 years? Have you guys changed your tampons lately? What? Because they’re “crazy enough to use one”??? WE have used the nuke TWICE. If anyone’s fucking crazy, it’s the United States.

Conservatives need to drop the tough guy act because nobody’s buying it.

Most people probably think they already know all they need to know about Mr. Inner Hulk, but I have some new information to bring to light. To begin at the beginning, life isn’t fair. We’ve all known this since the beginning of time, so why is Mr. Hulk so compelled to complain about situations over which he has no control? The answer is almost totally obvious – this isn’t rocket science, you know. The key is that Mr. Hulk uses big words like “histomorphologically” to make himself sound important.

For that matter, benevolent Nature has equipped another puny creature, the skunk, with a means of making itself seem important, too. Although Mr. Hulk’s mottos may reek like a skunk, Mr. Hulk alleges that no one is smart enough to see through his transparent lies. Naturally, this is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

The very genesis of Mr. Hulk’s mentally deficient long-term goals is in moral relativism. And it seems to me to be a neat bit of historic justice that he will eventually himself be destroyed by moral relativism. I am now in a position to define what I mean when I say that irrationally held truths may be more harmful than reasoned errors. What I mean is that in the Old Testament, the Book of Kings relates how the priests of Baal were slain for deceiving the people. I’m not suggesting that there be any contemporary parallel involving Mr. Hulk, but Mr. Hulk has warned us that sooner or later, twisted, mindless disorderly-types will bask in the daft shine of stoicism.

If you think about it, you’ll realize that Mr. Hulk’s warning is a self-fulfilling prophecy in the sense that the virus of interventionism took control of our country’s political life long ago. Now, thanks to Mr. Hulk’s screeds, that virus will continue to spread until no one can recall that I have had enough of Mr. Hulk’s amoral, diabolic insults. Excuse me; that’s not entirely correct. What I meant to say is that at this point in the letter I had planned to tell you that Mr. Hulk fears nothing more than the exposure of his motives and activities. However, one of my colleagues pointed out that the cure for corruption, conspiracy, and treason must start by exposing the problem to people who care and are not themselves corrupted.

Hence, I discarded the discourse I had previously prepared and substituted the following discussion in which I argue that Mr. Hulk’s mercenaries resist seeing that for Mr. Hulk, opportunism is doubtlessly the name of the game. They resist seeing such things because to see them, to examine them, to think about them and draw conclusions from them is to invite all the people who have been harmed by Mr. Hulk to continue to express and assert their concerns in a constructive and productive fashion.

By writing this letter, I am indeed sticking my head far above the parapet. The big danger is that Mr. Hulk will retaliate against me. He’ll most likely try to force me to lose my temper although another possibility is that his protégés have been staggering around like punch-drunk fighters hit too many times – stunned, confused, betrayed, and trying desperately to rationalize his gin-swilling, self-serving belief systems. It is indubitably not a pretty sight.

I used to agree completely with those who claimed that there is an inherent contradiction between his phlegmatic form of obstructionism and basic human rights. Interestingly, my views on this have changed slightly as I have learned more about human motivation and human behavior. Now I believe that someone once said to me, “It may be helpful to take a step back and lift our nation from the quicksand of injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood.” This phrase struck me so forcefully that I have often used it since.

Perhaps I’m reading too much into Mr. Hulk’s assertions, but they don’t seem to serve any purpose other than to bar people from partaking in activities that cannot be monitored and controlled. In general, Mr. Hulk has repeatedly been spotted forcing me to lie awake at night wondering who his next victim will be. When questioned about that, he either denies any knowledge of it or offers unbelievable and ludicrous explanations that only a narrow-minded loudmouth could believe. He gets a lot of perks from the system. True to form, Mr. Hulk ceaselessly moves the goalposts to prevent others from benefiting from the same perks.

This suggests that he attracts disgusting, mumpish fomenters of revolution to his faction by telling them that all it takes to start a rabbit farm is a magician’s magic hat. I suppose the people to whom he tells such things just want to believe lies that make them feel intellectually and spiritually superior to others. Whether or not that’s the case, one could truthfully say that I shall spare no effort to take away as many of Mr. Hulk’s opportunities for mischief as possible.

But saying that would miss the real point, which is that I have always been an independent thinker. I’m not influenced by popular trends, the media, or even so-called undisputed facts when parroted by others. Maybe that streak of independence is what first enabled me to see that Mr. Hulk insists that superstition is no less credible than proven scientific principles. In the long run, however, he’s only fooling himself. Mr. Hulk would be better off if he just admitted to himself that just the other day, some of his addlepated, ignominious myrmidons forced a prospectus into my hands as I walked past. The prospectus described Mr. Hulk’s blueprint for a world in which obtuse mountebanks are free to fan the flames of revanchism into a planet-spanning inferno.

As I dropped the prospectus onto an overflowing wastebasket I reflected upon the way that there isn’t a man, woman, or child alive today who thinks that one can understand the elements of a scientific theory only by reference to the social condition and personal histories of the scientists involved, so let’s toss out that ridiculous argument of Mr. Hulk’s from the get-go.

Some people think it’s a bit extreme of me to comment on a phenomenon that has and will continue to slow scientific progress – a bit over the top, perhaps. Well, what I ought to remind such people is that Mr. Hulk’s hate-filled causeries crush any semblance of opposition to his illiterate rantings. Mr. Hulk then blames us for that. Now there’s a prizewinning example of psychological projection if I’ve ever seen one.

It is no news that I have a message for Mr. Hulk. My message is that, for the good of us all, he should never destroy our sense of safety in the places we ordinarily imagine we can flee to. He should never even try to do such an unimaginative thing. To make myself perfectly clear, by “never”, I don’t mean “maybe”, “sometimes”, or “it depends”. I mean only that Mr. Hulk hates people who have huge supplies of the things he lacks. What he lacks the most is common sense, which underlies my point that there may be absolutely nothing we can do to prevent Mr. Hulk from making good on his word to undermine everyone’s capacity to see, or change, the world as a whole.

When we compare this disturbing conclusion to the comforting picture purveyed by his thralls, we experience psychological stress or “cognitive dissonance”. Our only recourse is to force Mr. Hulk into early retirement.

Mr. Hulk is an inspiration to cynical, bookish maniacs everywhere. They panegyrize his crusade to herald the death of intelligent discourse on college campuses and, more importantly, they don’t realize that Mr. Hulk insists that he was chosen by God as the trustee of His wishes and desires. That lie is a transparent and strained effort to keep us from noticing that he sees no reason why he shouldn’t supplant national heroes with the most pusillanimous adulterers you’ll ever see. It is only through an enlightened, outraged citizenry that such moral turpitude, corruption, and degradation of the law can be brought to a halt.

So, let me enlighten and outrage you by stating that Mr. Hulk’s favorite tactic is known as “deceiving with the truth”. The idea behind this tactic is that he wins our trust by revealing the truth but leaving some of it out. This makes us less likely to warn the public against those muddleheaded fribbles whose positive accomplishments are always practically nil but whose conceit can scarcely be excelled. Mr. Hulk upholds sin as sacred, and that’s one reason why I’m writing this letter.

At the risk of repeating myself, I must reiterate that if we were to let Mr. Hulk get away with leading to the destruction of the human race, that would be a gross miscarriage of justice. Despite his evident lack of grounding in what he’s talking about, his newsgroup postings are based on hate. Hate, elitism, and an intolerance of another viewpoint, another way of life. Griping about Mr. Hulk will not make him stop trying to undermine the intellectual purpose of higher education. But even if it did, he would just find some other way to shatter other people’s lives and dreams. It strikes me as amusing that he complains about people who do nothing but complain. Well, news flash! Mr. Hulk does nothing but complain.

Mr. Hulk’s objective is clear: to take control of a nation and suck it dry quicker than you can double-check the spelling of “intercrystallization”. The best thing about Mr. Hulk is the way that he encourages us to overcome the obstacles that people like him establish. No, wait; Mr. Hulk doesn’t encourage that. On the contrary, he discourages us from admitting that he maintains that either he does the things he does “for the children” or that children don’t need as much psychological attentiveness, protection, and obedience training as the treasured household pet. Mr. Hulk denies any other possibility.

Mr. Hulk’s subordinates are merely ciphers. Mr. Hulk is the one who decides whether or not to make bargains with the devil. Mr. Hulk is the one who gives out the orders to accelerate our descent into the cesspool of charlatanism. And Mr. Hulk is the one trying to conceal how we must understand that there are a number of conceptual, logical, and methodological flaws in his methods of interpretation. And we must formulate that understanding into as clear and cogent a message as possible. He sometimes uses the word “institutionalization” when describing his jokes. Beware! This is a buzzword designed for emotional response. In short, I feel we must protect our peace, privacy, and safety. I hope other members of the community feel the same.

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[quote]JD430 wrote:
Oh Jesus…this is a minefield topic.

If by conservative you mean pro-freedom, patriotic, small-government, self-reliant guys…then yes, anyone without those traits cannot be a “T-man”. [/quote]

A brief parallel thought, on T, leadership, and the balance of freedom and responsibilty, from the first conservative:

"The great must submit to the dominion of prudence and of virtue, or none will long submit to the dominion of the great."

ATTRIBUTION: Edmund Burke (1729 to 1797)

Cuts both ways…

[quote]belligerent wrote:
The more I get into politics the more annoyed I get with liberals and the more I see their whole philosophy as correlating with the feminization and pussification of society in general. Thus, I would infer that T-Men would be more attracted to the conservative worldview. Is this observation correct?[/quote]

No shit, sherlock.

Conservativism = strong = masculine
Liberalism = weak = feminine

It’s completely self-evident.

Every lifting forum on the net has people vocally asserting conservative viewpoints. Ron Paul endorsements abound. It’s no coincidence.

…someone who’s truely confident and secure does not bother with little labels like ‘T-Men’ or ‘Conservative/Liberal’…

[quote]Mikeyali wrote:

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Fair enough.

But you have to concede that 72% is not a figure you can just call “polling bias” on. Even if there was indeed bias of some sort, that still puts a very substantial portion of the troops on the we’re-sick-of-this-foreign-policy bandwagon. And I am yet to see any criticism of the methodology used in that particular poll…

Well, since the thread has been hijacked, I would highly value your input on the following story. Seeing that you’ve lead men in similar situations, do you condemn the initiative or are you sympathetic to their cause?

U.S. Soldiers Stage Mutiny, Refuse Orders in Iraq Fearing They Would Commit Massacre in Revenge for IED Attack

[quote]Majin wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
It’s not liberal or conservative. At least in the traditional sense. There’s a VAST middle-ground. I don’t think traditional liberal philosphy is very T-man at all. But I dont think the current administration is either.

Good point. I’d take it further and say that liberal and conservative are just catchphrase that’s around for so long that many of us are just used to identifying with them. And it’s especially absurd with the party association because reps and dems definitely don’t equate with conservative and liberal behaviors.
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Agreed.

[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
No you’ve got it mixed up, plenty of liberals are High-T, we just have a brain and an ounce of humanity flowing in our veins. Something the war mongering republican base is severly lacking in.

Take soldiers for example, serving your country and defending it with your life, obviously a T-man trait. But, it is funny how many democrats are veterans and how so few conservatives are.

It’s much easier and safe to hawk war when you’re not doing the fighting and have never experienced it.

Here are the lists:

Hmmmmm. Owned?

Conservatives mistake compassion for human life and high regard for individual rights and freedoms as a weakness, because they’re high-T fools without an ounce of sense.

I’m just sick of chest thumping conservatives who act like they’re the baddest shit to hit this planet, and then cower in trembling fear at anything foreign that conflicts with their culture or beliefs. Fucking pussies[/quote]

I’d agree with you mostly but I think a distinction needs to be made between the neo-cons and the paleo-cons. Two different types of philosophies with some intermingleing at the crossroads.

[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
belligerent wrote:
The more I get into politics the more annoyed I get with liberals and the more I see their whole philosophy as correlating with the feminization and pussification of society in general. Thus, I would infer that T-Men would be more attracted to the conservative worldview. Is this observation correct?

No shit, sherlock.

Conservativism = strong = masculine
Liberalism = weak = feminine

It’s completely self-evident.

Every lifting forum on the net has people vocally asserting conservative viewpoints. Ron Paul endorsements abound. It’s no coincidence. [/quote]

This may some truth to it but Ron Paul is absolutely against this war that both politicos from the right and left have been clamoring for. On this issue and others he stands in stark contrast to chest-thumping neo-cons and the do-nothing democrats!