T-Men Prone to be Conservative?

The more I get into politics the more annoyed I get with liberals and the more I see their whole philosophy as correlating with the feminization and pussification of society in general. Thus, I would infer that T-Men would be more attracted to the conservative worldview. Is this observation correct?

I have no evidence to support it, but I have made the same observation. What bothers me the most is how so many other people my age are liberals and socialists and proud of it.

You mean like

conservative = high T
liberal = low T

no other tests needed.

Oh Jesus…this is a minefield topic.

If by conservative you mean pro-freedom, patriotic, small-government, self-reliant guys…then yes, anyone without those traits cannot be a “T-man”.

I think the attitude required for weight training (discipline, self-control, delayed gratification) correlate strongly with principles of self-responsibility. Conservatives tend to value self-responsibility more than liberals do, so that’s probably why a lot of “t-men” tend towards conservative values.

No you’ve got it mixed up, plenty of liberals are High-T, we just have a brain and an ounce of humanity flowing in our veins. Something the war mongering republican base is severly lacking in.

Take soldiers for example, serving your country and defending it with your life, obviously a T-man trait. But, it is funny how many democrats are veterans and how so few conservatives are.

It’s much easier and safe to hawk war when you’re not doing the fighting and have never experienced it.

Here are the lists:

Hmmmmm. Owned?

Conservatives mistake compassion for human life and high regard for individual rights and freedoms as a weakness, because they’re high-T fools without an ounce of sense.

I’m just sick of chest thumping conservatives who act like they’re the baddest shit to hit this planet, and then cower in trembling fear at anything foreign that conflicts with their culture or beliefs. Fucking pussies

Conservative is not the best term to use here. For example, you’d find very few T-men in Africa or Latin America who are conservatives. They’re all revolutionaries and it’s the sissified type who are conservative (i.e: content with the situation and opposing change).

It’s all relative…

[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
I’m just sick of chest thumping conservatives who act like they’re the baddest shit to hit this planet, and then cower in trembling fear at anything foreign that conflicts with their culture or beliefs. Fucking pussies[/quote]

Who’s “cowering”? You are the pussies that think we should cut and run. You are the fucking party of Cindy Sheehan. You re the party of PC.

Fucking pussies? Look in the mirror. That’s what a pussy looks like.

[quote]lixy wrote:
Conservative is not the best term to use here. For example, you’d find very few T-men in Africa or Latin America who are conservatives. They’re all revolutionaries and it’s the sissified type who are conservative (i.e: content with the situation and opposing change).

It’s all relative…[/quote]

How many Africans are members here? How many Latin Americans.

Your lack of relevance is exceeded only by the size of your vagina.

[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
No you’ve got it mixed up, plenty of liberals are High-T, we just have a brain and an ounce of humanity flowing in our veins. Something the war mongering republican base is severly lacking in.

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Be careful equating ‘Republican’ and ‘conservative’. The current Republican party has drifted miles away from its conservative values. Traditionally, conservatives favor shirinking Federal authority, small government and a fairly isolationist foreign policy (except perhaps in regard to trade). This description obviously doesn’t fit the current Republican Administration. They are NOT conservative, except on maybe some social issues.

“If you’re not a liberal when you’re 25, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative by the time you’re 35, you have no brain.” Ever heard that one?

[quote]rainjack wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
I’m just sick of chest thumping conservatives who act like they’re the baddest shit to hit this planet, and then cower in trembling fear at anything foreign that conflicts with their culture or beliefs. Fucking pussies

Who’s “cowering”? You are the pussies that think we should cut and run. You are the fucking party of Cindy Sheehan. You re the party of PC.

Fucking pussies? Look in the mirror. That’s what a pussy looks like. [/quote]
Please.

Your base cowers in the corner in fear of homosexuals. You tremble at the sight of Arabs. Immigration, illegal or not, enrages your base. Your twisted group now favors government expansion, civil libery erosion, pre emptive wars.

What the fuck happened to your party? If Bush and Co banned firearms tomorrow you fucking gutless lot would hand over your rifles in an instant, anything to appease the Lord Master George Bush who knows no wrongs.

Your fucking base has turned into a blind flood of followers willing to ignore reason and fact because you’re all so caught up in a wave of emotion over 9/11. A fucking 6 year old attack that claimed 3,000 American lives, and yet, we’ve already lost 4,000 American soldiers in Iraq alone. And for what? For abso-fucking-lutely nothing. Thousands upon thousands of dead Iraqi civilians and thousands of American lives, yeah, I do want to leave Iraq. We never should have been there in the first place.

And eventually, when they set their sights on Iran, you’ll support it. Because you cower in fear at the possibility of Iranians building a nuclear weapon. Fear. Cowardess. PUSSIES. We’ve got thousands of fucking nuclear weapons, what the fuck is wrong with you guys?? We’ve got the biggest nuclear arsenal in the world and you guys are shitting a brick over Iran hypothetically building one in 5 years? Have you guys changed your tampons lately? What? Because they’re “crazy enough to use one”??? WE have used the nuke TWICE. If anyone’s fucking crazy, it’s the United States.

Conservatives need to drop the tough guy act because nobody’s buying it.

[quote]SinisterMinister wrote:
“If you’re not a liberal when you’re 25, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative by the time you’re 35, you have no brain.” Ever heard that one?
[/quote]
I have. I’ve got a long time till I’m 35 though : )

[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
I’m just sick of chest thumping conservatives who act like they’re the baddest shit to hit this planet, and then cower in trembling fear at anything foreign that conflicts with their culture or beliefs. Fucking pussies

Who’s “cowering”? You are the pussies that think we should cut and run. You are the fucking party of Cindy Sheehan. You re the party of PC.

Fucking pussies? Look in the mirror. That’s what a pussy looks like.
Please.

Your base cowers in the corner in fear of homosexuals. You tremble at the sight of Arabs. Immigration, illegal or not, enrages your base. Your twisted group now favors government expansion, civil libery erosion, pre emptive wars.

What the fuck happened to your party? If Bush and Co banned firearms tomorrow you fucking gutless lot would hand over your rifles in an instant, anything to appease the Lord Master George Bush who knows no wrongs.

Your fucking base has turned into a blind flood of followers willing to ignore reason and fact because you’re all so caught up in a wave of emotion over 9/11. A fucking 6 year old attack that claimed 3,000 American lives, and yet, we’ve already lost 4,000 American soldiers in Iraq alone. And for what? For abso-fucking-lutely nothing. Thousands upon thousands of dead Iraqi civilians and thousands of American lives, yeah, I do want to leave Iraq. We never should have been there in the first place.

And eventually, when they set their sights on Iran, you’ll support it. Because you cower in fear at the possibility of Iranians building a nuclear weapon. Fear. Cowardess. PUSSIES. We’ve got thousands of fucking nuclear weapons, what the fuck is wrong with you guys?? We’ve got the biggest nuclear arsenal in the world and you guys are shitting a brick over Iran hypothetically building one in 5 years? Have you guys changed your tampons lately? What? Because they’re “crazy enough to use one”??? WE have used the nuke TWICE. If anyone’s fucking crazy, it’s the United States.

Conservatives need to drop the tough guy act because nobody’s buying it.[/quote]

Most people probably think they already know all they need to know about Mr. Inner Hulk, but I have some new information to bring to light. To begin at the beginning, life isn’t fair. We’ve all known this since the beginning of time, so why is Mr. Hulk so compelled to complain about situations over which he has no control? The answer is almost totally obvious – this isn’t rocket science, you know. The key is that Mr. Hulk uses big words like “histomorphologically” to make himself sound important.

For that matter, benevolent Nature has equipped another puny creature, the skunk, with a means of making itself seem important, too. Although Mr. Hulk’s mottos may reek like a skunk, Mr. Hulk alleges that no one is smart enough to see through his transparent lies. Naturally, this is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

The very genesis of Mr. Hulk’s mentally deficient long-term goals is in moral relativism. And it seems to me to be a neat bit of historic justice that he will eventually himself be destroyed by moral relativism. I am now in a position to define what I mean when I say that irrationally held truths may be more harmful than reasoned errors. What I mean is that in the Old Testament, the Book of Kings relates how the priests of Baal were slain for deceiving the people. I’m not suggesting that there be any contemporary parallel involving Mr. Hulk, but Mr. Hulk has warned us that sooner or later, twisted, mindless disorderly-types will bask in the daft shine of stoicism.

If you think about it, you’ll realize that Mr. Hulk’s warning is a self-fulfilling prophecy in the sense that the virus of interventionism took control of our country’s political life long ago. Now, thanks to Mr. Hulk’s screeds, that virus will continue to spread until no one can recall that I have had enough of Mr. Hulk’s amoral, diabolic insults. Excuse me; that’s not entirely correct. What I meant to say is that at this point in the letter I had planned to tell you that Mr. Hulk fears nothing more than the exposure of his motives and activities. However, one of my colleagues pointed out that the cure for corruption, conspiracy, and treason must start by exposing the problem to people who care and are not themselves corrupted.

Hence, I discarded the discourse I had previously prepared and substituted the following discussion in which I argue that Mr. Hulk’s mercenaries resist seeing that for Mr. Hulk, opportunism is doubtlessly the name of the game. They resist seeing such things because to see them, to examine them, to think about them and draw conclusions from them is to invite all the people who have been harmed by Mr. Hulk to continue to express and assert their concerns in a constructive and productive fashion.

By writing this letter, I am indeed sticking my head far above the parapet. The big danger is that Mr. Hulk will retaliate against me. He’ll most likely try to force me to lose my temper although another possibility is that his protégés have been staggering around like punch-drunk fighters hit too many times – stunned, confused, betrayed, and trying desperately to rationalize his gin-swilling, self-serving belief systems. It is indubitably not a pretty sight.

I used to agree completely with those who claimed that there is an inherent contradiction between his phlegmatic form of obstructionism and basic human rights. Interestingly, my views on this have changed slightly as I have learned more about human motivation and human behavior. Now I believe that someone once said to me, “It may be helpful to take a step back and lift our nation from the quicksand of injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood.” This phrase struck me so forcefully that I have often used it since.

Perhaps I’m reading too much into Mr. Hulk’s assertions, but they don’t seem to serve any purpose other than to bar people from partaking in activities that cannot be monitored and controlled. In general, Mr. Hulk has repeatedly been spotted forcing me to lie awake at night wondering who his next victim will be. When questioned about that, he either denies any knowledge of it or offers unbelievable and ludicrous explanations that only a narrow-minded loudmouth could believe. He gets a lot of perks from the system. True to form, Mr. Hulk ceaselessly moves the goalposts to prevent others from benefiting from the same perks.

This suggests that he attracts disgusting, mumpish fomenters of revolution to his faction by telling them that all it takes to start a rabbit farm is a magician’s magic hat. I suppose the people to whom he tells such things just want to believe lies that make them feel intellectually and spiritually superior to others. Whether or not that’s the case, one could truthfully say that I shall spare no effort to take away as many of Mr. Hulk’s opportunities for mischief as possible.

But saying that would miss the real point, which is that I have always been an independent thinker. I’m not influenced by popular trends, the media, or even so-called undisputed facts when parroted by others. Maybe that streak of independence is what first enabled me to see that Mr. Hulk insists that superstition is no less credible than proven scientific principles. In the long run, however, he’s only fooling himself. Mr. Hulk would be better off if he just admitted to himself that just the other day, some of his addlepated, ignominious myrmidons forced a prospectus into my hands as I walked past. The prospectus described Mr. Hulk’s blueprint for a world in which obtuse mountebanks are free to fan the flames of revanchism into a planet-spanning inferno.

As I dropped the prospectus onto an overflowing wastebasket I reflected upon the way that there isn’t a man, woman, or child alive today who thinks that one can understand the elements of a scientific theory only by reference to the social condition and personal histories of the scientists involved, so let’s toss out that ridiculous argument of Mr. Hulk’s from the get-go.

Some people think it’s a bit extreme of me to comment on a phenomenon that has and will continue to slow scientific progress – a bit over the top, perhaps. Well, what I ought to remind such people is that Mr. Hulk’s hate-filled causeries crush any semblance of opposition to his illiterate rantings. Mr. Hulk then blames us for that. Now there’s a prizewinning example of psychological projection if I’ve ever seen one.

It is no news that I have a message for Mr. Hulk. My message is that, for the good of us all, he should never destroy our sense of safety in the places we ordinarily imagine we can flee to. He should never even try to do such an unimaginative thing. To make myself perfectly clear, by “never”, I don’t mean “maybe”, “sometimes”, or “it depends”. I mean only that Mr. Hulk hates people who have huge supplies of the things he lacks. What he lacks the most is common sense, which underlies my point that there may be absolutely nothing we can do to prevent Mr. Hulk from making good on his word to undermine everyone’s capacity to see, or change, the world as a whole.

When we compare this disturbing conclusion to the comforting picture purveyed by his thralls, we experience psychological stress or “cognitive dissonance”. Our only recourse is to force Mr. Hulk into early retirement.

Mr. Hulk is an inspiration to cynical, bookish maniacs everywhere. They panegyrize his crusade to herald the death of intelligent discourse on college campuses and, more importantly, they don’t realize that Mr. Hulk insists that he was chosen by God as the trustee of His wishes and desires. That lie is a transparent and strained effort to keep us from noticing that he sees no reason why he shouldn’t supplant national heroes with the most pusillanimous adulterers you’ll ever see. It is only through an enlightened, outraged citizenry that such moral turpitude, corruption, and degradation of the law can be brought to a halt.

So, let me enlighten and outrage you by stating that Mr. Hulk’s favorite tactic is known as “deceiving with the truth”. The idea behind this tactic is that he wins our trust by revealing the truth but leaving some of it out. This makes us less likely to warn the public against those muddleheaded fribbles whose positive accomplishments are always practically nil but whose conceit can scarcely be excelled. Mr. Hulk upholds sin as sacred, and that’s one reason why I’m writing this letter.

At the risk of repeating myself, I must reiterate that if we were to let Mr. Hulk get away with leading to the destruction of the human race, that would be a gross miscarriage of justice. Despite his evident lack of grounding in what he’s talking about, his newsgroup postings are based on hate. Hate, elitism, and an intolerance of another viewpoint, another way of life. Griping about Mr. Hulk will not make him stop trying to undermine the intellectual purpose of higher education. But even if it did, he would just find some other way to shatter other people’s lives and dreams. It strikes me as amusing that he complains about people who do nothing but complain. Well, news flash! Mr. Hulk does nothing but complain.

Mr. Hulk’s objective is clear: to take control of a nation and suck it dry quicker than you can double-check the spelling of “intercrystallization”. The best thing about Mr. Hulk is the way that he encourages us to overcome the obstacles that people like him establish. No, wait; Mr. Hulk doesn’t encourage that. On the contrary, he discourages us from admitting that he maintains that either he does the things he does “for the children” or that children don’t need as much psychological attentiveness, protection, and obedience training as the treasured household pet. Mr. Hulk denies any other possibility.

Mr. Hulk’s subordinates are merely ciphers. Mr. Hulk is the one who decides whether or not to make bargains with the devil. Mr. Hulk is the one who gives out the orders to accelerate our descent into the cesspool of charlatanism. And Mr. Hulk is the one trying to conceal how we must understand that there are a number of conceptual, logical, and methodological flaws in his methods of interpretation. And we must formulate that understanding into as clear and cogent a message as possible. He sometimes uses the word “institutionalization” when describing his jokes. Beware! This is a buzzword designed for emotional response. In short, I feel we must protect our peace, privacy, and safety. I hope other members of the community feel the same.

What’s that copied and pasted from?

[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
What’s that copied and pasted from?[/quote]

An automatic complaint generator. I figured you were using the same thing.

say whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

T-men probably value personal freedom, something that has little to nothing to do with
“liberalism” and “conservativeness” by their true definitions.

As Lixy said, the “T-men” of Latin America and part of Asia are certainly the revolutionaries, socialist or not.

Now he’s a crazy question: Are the strong, hard handed dictators T-men? What about the weaker, but more passionate members of society?

Was Mother Theresa a “T-Woman”?

Do we really want a world made up of entirely “T-people”, if we choose to use the definition of “T-person” this thread is leaning towards?

All I have to say, is hell fucking no. It is the mix of people in society that makes society so freakin’ awesome.

Notice that the greater the diversity in a nation, the less likely the nation is to be crazy and uncivilized. Notice that when a nation starts ethnically cleansing, they’re arts and science plummet. When the US started to accept and allow new ethnicities, we had cultural golden ages.

Diversity is king. A world filled with the same kind of people would be boring, and in the case of T-men as used by people like RainJack, overly violent and uncivilized.

Of course, a world filled with the opposite would be just as bad.

Has any one seen the South Park episode with the liberal and conservative concert battle?

If not, go see it.

I would not overgeneralize the point, but I think Pookie’s point makes sense.

So I think “prone” might be a fair statement, but it would be a danger to overdo it.

And since I am a huge fan of irony around here lately, I noticed Inner Hulk tried to press his claim that “liberals” are the ones with the “brains”. Wow.

Note to Liberals - get a better spokesperson on the matter.

[quote]SinisterMinister wrote:
They are NOT conservative, except on maybe some social issues.

[/quote]

The Republican stance on some social issues has always befuddled me. They profess to be pro-individual rights and freedoms and anti-government interference. Yet they want to control peoples life-styles via legislation.

i.e. drug laws

Wow Hulk. You really showed all your cards in this thread. Now that I know not to listen to a thing that comes out of your mouth in future threads. You’ve also proven that you aren’t in the military. If you were you’d see that the extreme majority of us are conservative.

You know why Ron Paul is getting the money from the military? It isn’t to get out of Iraq buddy. It’s because most of us take our Oath of Enlistment seriously. Our support of the Constitution is important. Ron Paul shares our conviction.

And you want to talk of cowardice? I agree that many Republicans are chickens for fearing some backwards idiots thousands of miles away. But you know what is even more pathetic? Liberals being afraid of getting laid off from their menial job at the factory. God forbid they might have to find a different job. What’s even scarier? Not having universal health care. Oh no, they might have to forego that new HDTV to buy their own.

mike